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this is bay to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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yeah man how you doing today's monday

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listening all around the world all

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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changer and nx networks

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racehobbs i am your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody we've got an

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amazing week

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coming up on faded black i know i say

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that every week but

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check this out tonight

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whitley strieber is here tonight the

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show is called communion 2.0

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tomorrow night our special guest is me

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got a special presentation

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our humans et that is going down

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richard dolan is here for disclosure 2.0

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there is no fader night this week deal

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with it there are no open lines

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yeah what an amazing week on the show

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whitley is with us tonight looking

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forward to that i just post a picture up

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of uh whitley richard

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thought man how cool is that and i

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you know right and there we are

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uh eight years ago

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feed i think i've got it up on facebook

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um upars has been down for two years

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and there is a way for a couple of you

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for you to attend so i will talk about

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all of this uh tomorrow night and i'll

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make that announcement i want everybody

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it is about time travel all you have to

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announced this last week i think today

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all the fader knots over there that's

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that is it so come and hang out with all

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of us over there and let's get straight

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to the breaking news i've got a lot to

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talk about tonight so let me get the

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breaking news out of the way um and i'm

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russia russia russia

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a 36 million dollar russian su-34

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the su-34 jet had been accidentally shot

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throughout the heat wave so you can go

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exploration news a study published today

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look up that's all i got to say drew

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make taggart and paul the first musical

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artist to perform at the edge of space

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all of this according to space tourism

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company world view world view says the

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me for that do you want to hear me play

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guitar i would have done it from the

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20 miles up that'd be great whitley

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strieber's see me play guitar i'm just

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that it has signed a deal with russia's

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soyuz spacecraft as they have done many

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times and cosmonauts will climb aboard

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private american spacex dragon capsules

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which has never happened before

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the cosmonaut will be anna kakina she

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will fly on spacex's crew 5 mission her

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crewmates on that flight which is

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scheduled to launch in september

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will be nasa's nicole mann and josh

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casada and japan's koichi wakata

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now in more ros cosmos news

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dmitry ragozan the ross cosmo space

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agency chief known for his frequent

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twitter clashes with elon musk

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was fired

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this past friday

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two minutes after the announcement the

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announcement goes out two two two

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minutes later and i'm not making this up

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two minutes later russian president vlad

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putin installed yuri borisov to replace

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rogozin as head of ross cosmos the

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kremlin did not provide a reason for his

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decision to replace ragozan who had

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helmed the russian space agency since

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2018 but we all know that vlad wants

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mcdonald's and starbucks back in moscow

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so he's doing

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what he can

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well that micrometeoroid that hit the

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webb space telescope in late may

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caused permanent damage to the

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spacecraft according to space telescope

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science institute report released today

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the report was published by nasa and the

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european and canadian space agencies

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according to the analysis

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the impact exceeded i'm quoting here

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from the report

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quote it exceeded pre-launch

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expectations of damage for a single

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single

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micro meteoroid end quote

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there you go let's get the show cracking

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on this day in history 1960 1964.

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oh man

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on this day in history in the year

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64.

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nero's rome burns the great fire of rome

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breaks out and destroys much of the city

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beginning on today july 18th and 64.

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there you go some say that nero

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played a violin

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while rome burned right that's the big

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rumor

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violins weren't even invented yet

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so you can scratch that part and in fact

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he wasn't even in rome he was

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vacationing at his vacation villa

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somewhere else in italy at the time but

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there you go on this day in 64 a.d

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fader fact

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all right i didn't know this and it's

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crazy

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julius chambers

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of the new york tribune newspaper

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had himself committed to an asylum

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in

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1872

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and his account

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of his of his commitment

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led to the release of 12 patients who

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were not mentally ill a reorganization

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of the staff

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and a change in the lunacy laws

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and that

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is your fader fact and i'll say this man

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tonight we welcome very special guest

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whitley strieber is here tonight it is

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communion 2.0 tomorrow night it's me

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i am going to do a presentation on our

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humans

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e.t

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wednesday night richard dolan joins us

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for disclosure 2.0 and then thursday

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night linda moulton howe is back for

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contact

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2.0 there's no fader night this week

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like i said before just deal with it

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and that's the way it is what a great

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week on the show whitley will be here

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with us at the bottom of the hour

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and uh now i need to hit this river moon

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coffee

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you see my dean martin bar

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rivermoonwellness.com fade to black

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blend

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did you see the pictures of my dean

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martin wet bar

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it's pretty cool it's not done

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but it's getting there

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and uh it's uh it it's pretty cool it's

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pretty cool

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all right and i forget why i brought

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that up i don't know why i brought that

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up

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but i'm gonna hit this coffee again

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river moon wellness the banner's over at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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just go to

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rivermoonwellness.com you can search

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jimmy church fade to black blend coffee

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even go to amazon go to the amazon store

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and get it there free shipping it's the

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best coffee in the world promo code f2b

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blend if you go to the website 15 off of

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your order

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right now

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okay

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so i posted some pictures

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and uh

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saturday night adrian valera the

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producer of disclosure fest came over to

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the house now we had a meeting

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uh starting at 12 noon

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and we were planning on eight hours one

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one for 12 so 12 noon to 12 midnight

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and uh

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so we had a

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lunch planned and a dinner planned and

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we we had a lot of work to do so this

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was a working meeting

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and and things so anyway i posted

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pictures of of that

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um but okay so here's the deal adrian

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and i are really close friends

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and everybody knows that but um

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uh we are

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we are polar opposites

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in that

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he's a vegan

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i'm a carnivore

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right technically if you read the rule

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book

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right

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that's not supposed to work

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but it does

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and

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so let me lay it out for you like this

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carnivores are

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respectful compassionate

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you know and and for having a dinner

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party

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and and you know we're cooking all of

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our stuff and somebody's showing up and

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we find you know a vegetarian is showing

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up or a vegan is showing up we make sure

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that

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there is nourishment good food

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that is acceptable to them right

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we make sure that's what we do right

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that's what we do

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and not it's not the same thing if if

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you go over to a vegan's house uh it's

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not the same thing but

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uh more on that in just a bit but but

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here's the thing

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so um

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uh adrian's coming over i'm excited

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and

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uh so i go to the market

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and

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vegan stuff

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i don't know anything about this right

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so

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for my first stop is i've got to go to a

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part of the store that i never visit

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the vegetable section right and i push

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my car through there and i'm like man

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what do i do and you find yourself as a

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carnivore you are shopping for

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for vegetables for things that

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you don't even know exist and you're

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looking at this difference about kale

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okay all right i guess we'll figure

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something out with that and there's

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stuff you've never seen

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names you have never seen

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and you find yourself buying it you

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don't know what you're going to do and

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and uh but oh green

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broccoli

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right okay

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uh

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when i was a kid cheese sauce on the top

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oh i can't do that but i'll buy the

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broccoli anyway throw that in and i you

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know you load up and you go through and

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and you're happy because you're a

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carnivore and you're compassionate to

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the world we are kind to the world

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that's what we do

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and i want to make sure that

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that

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not only is adrian impressed with my

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compassion and my heart

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um but that he is also uh uh

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fulfilled

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and he's gonna go wow this is really

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great thank you jimmy right that's what

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we do all right

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so

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but the vegan side of things

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if

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you know that

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the vegan

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is not going okay jimmy church is going

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to be here man okay we got to make sure

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that he's fed

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all right

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that's not going to happen

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and as a matter of fact what happens

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when i go to

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um and this i i know i'm messed up i'm

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i'm i'm i'm a messed up person and this

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is how i think i mean even like with

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adrian and i was like man i gotta saute

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these

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i got a saw table

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i got to saute those in butter oh i'll

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saute the vegetables before adrian gets

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here

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and he won't know right

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no i didn't do that i cooked in front of

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adrian

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but i thought about it i did it that's i

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messed up the thought popped in my head

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for a minute but it was gone okay i

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would i would never do that and i didn't

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do it

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but uh but me going to a vegan house no

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they're not going to jimmy

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we're glad that you're here we want to

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make sure that you're happy so we went

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to

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in and out we got you a bag of burgers

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and

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you know that would be great but that's

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not what's going to happen instead

534
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um there is the propaganda

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that gets dropped on my head for the

536
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next two or three hours i've got to hear

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stories about chicken farms and

538
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and and cattle farms and and things i

539
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got to hear about the movie babe and i

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got to go through all of that i've got

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to endure that and i've got to eat these

542
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cauliflower chips and i've got a hummus

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and

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i've got to you know but

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that's because i'm compassionate and

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carnivores are we endure

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we do we endure but here's the thing

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this is what you do as a carnivore when

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you're going to the vegan house

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you plug the address in your gps

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and you drive when you are getting close

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and you're looking at your gps in the

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car

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and you know that you're a couple of

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blocks away

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that's when you scout out

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a burger king

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that's what you do you you you got it

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you you mark it in your gps and you know

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so as soon as you leave the party

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right if

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you you go to burger king

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hopefully when you get to burger king

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because you go to burger king because

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they have the two for one right they

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have their own bogo buy one sandwich get

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00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:30,400
another one free right hopefully you can

568
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,600
get the double whopper and get two and

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when the double whoppers come

570
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you take a bite as they hand you the bag

571
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and then you put it down oh

572
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right and you're relieved

573
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:46,960
it's just the way it is

574
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,919
it's not the same at a carnivore's house

575
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we make sure everybody's taken care of

576
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:55,520
and uh so anyway so that was saturday

577
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,159
and later on that night and adrian and i

578
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,240
just a great meal great day great fun it

579
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:02,640
was amazing it was totally cool

580
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:05,279
but we went out in the backyard for a

581
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sky watch now this is the ufo

582
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,000
tie in here

583
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so we go

584
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:13,919
um i know i messed up man i've got a

585
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,559
messed up head i get that all right but

586
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,240
that's everything that i speak is the

587
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:20,640
truth so anyway so we go in the backyard

588
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,200
and uh

589
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,039
and this is what happens we get out

590
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:26,640
there

591
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:30,159
uh it was about 10 o'clock 10 p.m

592
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and

593
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:33,520
instantly

594
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:37,760
we have a sighting

595
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,760
i thought wow that's pretty cool

596
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,679
i do it all the time but wow you know

597
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:43,440
out of the gate and the next thing you

598
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:44,480
know

599
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:48,240
for the next two hours until midnight

600
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:50,080
adrian and i

601
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,679
had a sighting

602
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,200
or two

603
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,960
like every

604
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,799
minute

605
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,960
it didn't stop it got to the point where

606
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i was doing countdowns

607
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:02,240
i was like okay adrian you got 10

608
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,190
we had a a meteor

609
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:11,279
did a re-entry came straight down

610
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,080
flaming orange that was crazy it crashed

611
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:16,320
out in the desert somewhere straight

612
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,159
down that happened uh shooting stars or

613
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,480
whatever you want to call you know

614
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:24,720
meteorites coming in meteor shower had

615
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:26,240
that but

616
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,520
we had flashing objects in the sky

617
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:31,120
twice that happened

618
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:34,720
um and we had stuff changing directions

619
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,240
and and two three objects at a time

620
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,120
changing it was nuts

621
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:43,760
and it got to the point where and i'm

622
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,480
not making this up

623
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at around midnight

624
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:51,520
adrian said my neck hurts

625
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,679
it was like mine too man

626
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so we sat down

627
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:59,279
and i turned off the night vision and i

628
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:02,080
sat down he sat down my neck was killing

629
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,200
me

630
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:06,399
we had to stop we literally a minute

631
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,279
before the neck hurts comment we're

632
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,919
looking at stuff it's it's everywhere up

633
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,200
in the sky

634
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,760
and we sat down turned everything off

635
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,000
and we knew things were going on it

636
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:21,200
didn't end because we had to quit

637
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:24,399
but it was like that we did two straight

638
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:25,600
hours

639
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,320
of constant back to back to back to back

640
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,200
to back objects in the sky some of it

641
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:33,120
was really strange

642
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:36,080
and it was just an amazing night and the

643
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,360
carnivore

644
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:39,520
and the vegan

645
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:42,159
getting along and that's what this

646
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:43,440
community

647
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:45,520
is all about it was so funny the last

648
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,279
thing adrian said

649
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,080
um as he got in his car he goes i know

650
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:51,919
you're going to be talking about this

651
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,840
this vegan carnivore thing on monday i

652
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,840
said you know i am

653
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,480
this is how it should be

654
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:01,440
carnivores are compassionate

655
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:03,679
there you go this is fade to black i am

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your host jimmy church we have a huge

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week this week on fade to black tonight

658
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whitley strieber is here i can see him

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he's in the green room and he'll be with

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us when we come back after the break

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tomorrow night it's me

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wednesday night it's richard dolan

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thursday night linda moulton howe

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there's no fader night this week and uh

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everybody just relax we don't do that

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often but we're doing it this week

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no fader night this is fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church on the game

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changer and annex networks racehobbs

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is not

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your father's radio show on the game

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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church radio

787
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:59,910
all right welcome back fade to black i

788
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,320
am your host jimmy church tonight

789
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:04,640
whitney strieber joins us for communion

790
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,800
2.0 tomorrow night it's me that's right

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and uh wednesday night richard dolan

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thursday night linda multinow big week

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on the show

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00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:16,480
tonight whitley joins us for a very open

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00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,880
and comprehensive conversation about

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00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:20,240
communion

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00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:23,359
we're going to discuss the book and the

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00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,880
future world of us and communion 2.0

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00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,040
uh the book is in re-release we will

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00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:31,359
talk about all of that tonight

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00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:33,280
because whitley is someone who has

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00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:36,640
changed our world view he is one of the

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00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,680
iconic cultural figures of our time of

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00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:41,440
course he is the author of the communion

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00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:44,000
series of books and many novels ranging

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00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:45,440
from the wolfen and the hunger to the

807
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greys and the alien hunter series

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communion the wolfen hunger and of

809
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,640
course superstorm have all been made

810
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:54,720
into movies and superstorm

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00:37:59,710 --> 00:37:57,280
was called the day after tomorrow his

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00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:59,720
websites everybody knows unknown

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country.com and strieber.com

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00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:05,200
it's all simple to do the links are up

815
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:08,400
in our social media and on our website

816
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:10,400
and i would like to welcome back to fade

817
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:11,920
to black the one and only whitley

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00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,560
strieber whitley good evening young man

819
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:16,000
how you doing

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00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:19,440
i'm good i'm pretty good how are you oh

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00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,270
and uh

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00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:26,880
it it's so great to have you back on the

823
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:30,000
show and uh this is an important show

824
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:33,599
for a lot of reasons um and i want to

825
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:36,400
get straight to uh about four or five

826
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,599
reasons

827
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:39,680
um and of course

828
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:42,160
that is

829
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,079
communion

830
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,280
this is community 2.0 everybody now now

831
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:49,520
i i i don't get excited this is my

832
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:52,880
autographed copy yeah i that i was using

833
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:56,160
hieroglyphics that night apparently

834
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,240
so you kept the one that didn't work

835
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,960
i'll have to send you a new one and uh

836
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:03,359
yeah thank you whitley um

837
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:07,200
so let's start uh with the big news and

838
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:08,320
that is

839
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:10,240
you got the rights back to the book tell

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00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:11,599
us about that

841
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,119
yeah well uh after

842
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:17,040
i think it's

843
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,079
25 or 30 years or something like that

844
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:23,200
the government says that you can reclaim

845
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:26,240
a license that's been

846
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,280
sent to a given to a publisher

847
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:31,359
and you know they were i mean it's a

848
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,960
publisher they're not going to exactly

849
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:34,640
be pushing a book

850
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:37,440
that they've had all that time

851
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:38,800
and uh

852
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,000
so i re re reclaimed the rights was no

853
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:44,960
problem they didn't fight it at all and

854
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:48,079
that gave me the chance to republish the

855
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:49,359
book

856
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:51,280
for uh

857
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,839
both for the people who have

858
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:55,680
read it in the past and might like to do

859
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,920
it again or had a copy and don't have a

860
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,200
copy now

861
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:00,960
now of course they can get it on kindle

862
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:03,520
or paperback or hardcover

863
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:07,839
and in audio format i have read the book

864
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,079
now i

865
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,680
have been listening uh to the audiobook

866
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:15,520
and i gotta tell you

867
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:18,880
um uh it is such a treat to

868
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,440
uh have it in your voice

869
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:23,760
um i already re i read the book all the

870
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:24,560
time

871
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:26,880
and i read it in your voice because you

872
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,200
and i do a lot of hanging out so i'm

873
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:31,280
able to do that but to have the audio

874
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:35,680
book that is is very very cool so many

875
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:36,880
today

876
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,960
you know they do audio books i do audio

877
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,400
books and

878
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:43,440
uh but to have it in your voice is is

879
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,480
very very very cool for me so i like

880
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:48,240
yeah thank you

881
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,440
yeah i mean i

882
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:52,000
met it was an amazing experience to read

883
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,040
it because

884
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:55,920
i relived the whole experience

885
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:58,640
when i read the book aloud

886
00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:00,400
and you know it's you you think oh it's

887
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,000
easy to do you sit there and read into a

888
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:04,640
microphone for a few hours and it's done

889
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:06,800
that is not what happens as you know

890
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:10,160
what happens is you're reading along and

891
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,440
uh

892
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,400
you begin to need to sneeze or

893
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,079
something you you

894
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:18,960
twist a word or you leave a word out

895
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:21,359
and all this has to be edited and and

896
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,560
redone and on and on and on but the

897
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:26,640
bottom line is

898
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:31,119
you get a beautiful clean thing that is

899
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:31,839
that

900
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,599
is got your experience in your voice

901
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,200
and that's why you have to read the

902
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,119
author of a book like this

903
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:41,359
you have to read it yourself

904
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:44,880
you can't you can't have a reader do it

905
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,560
you know what you know what i found um

906
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:49,440
in

907
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,960
because i read it when it was first

908
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:52,960
released right and

909
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:53,680
now

910
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:57,599
back then i was a kid uh so were you by

911
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,800
the way so back then i was a kid

912
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:03,680
and um now

913
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,640
it was great and things but

914
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,680
but i was in a different headspace right

915
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:11,280
i was in a different head space and when

916
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:12,079
you

917
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:16,319
i've read the book a few times over the

918
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,119
years um i've gone back and re-read it

919
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,440
now a couple of times in the last couple

920
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,280
of months and i've got the audio book

921
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,520
now it it it's it's a completely

922
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,920
different book to me and i've i've

923
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:30,400
picked up on things that i i thought i

924
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:32,800
knew this word for word right and so

925
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,000
many do

926
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,240
and then you go at it with a fresh mind

927
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:38,240
and it's like a brand new book whitley

928
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,040
plus you wrote a new forward as well but

929
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:43,920
did you find yourself doing the same

930
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:45,760
thing as you're doing the audiobook did

931
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,640
you

932
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,440
had written

933
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,079
no i didn't forget about any of it

934
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,079
i would never forget a minute of it i

935
00:42:56,829 --> 00:42:55,760
don't think

936
00:43:17,750 --> 00:42:56,839
i

937
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,760
some

938
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:19,839
semi-sort of bestsellers and i was doing

939
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:21,680
well i mean in those days

940
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:24,160
you didn't need to be stephen king to do

941
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:25,920
to have success in writing and i was

942
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,880
doing

943
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:28,880
quite well i had

944
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,160
published a book called war day and then

945
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,240
without knowing it i was involved with

946
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:37,040
the visitors i did not understand that

947
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:39,839
at the time i i didn't it was so far

948
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:42,079
under the surface of my life

949
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:43,920
but i think they had a huge influence on

950
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,319
the book called nature's end

951
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,640
because uh

952
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,680
uh

953
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:51,440
that book is

954
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,079
it it's you know it's that it's a sort

955
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,400
of science fiction novel about

956
00:44:02,390 --> 00:43:58,720
the future the of

957
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:02,400
the the world in 2020 written in 19

958
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:04,960
published in 1985

959
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:08,160
and are 86 and it is when you read it

960
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,520
now it's it's horrifyingly uncanny

961
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:12,640
um

962
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:15,760
it even has uh hybrid cars in it which

963
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,640
was

964
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:18,079
but but you know most of the science

965
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:20,079
fiction it now by our standards is

966
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:21,440
fairly hokey

967
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:22,480
but

968
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:25,119
the nature part of it is

969
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:28,319
weirdly prescient i mean it really is

970
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,839
and uh that had something to do

971
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,599
with my connection with the visitors i

972
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:35,520
was unconscious of

973
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:38,240
and when i say unconscious of it

974
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:45,030
that

975
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:46,560
years ago by

976
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,599
i guess one of my editors of my fiction

977
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:51,599
said you know whitley i think they were

978
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:52,720
in your life

979
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:54,640
long before you knew it

980
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,680
because if you read the wolfen

981
00:45:02,829 --> 00:44:59,839
it's the grace

982
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,839
and if you read the hunger it's the

983
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:05,040
blondes they're

984
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,560
characters that you built out of these

985
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,079
things that were in your life that you

986
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,319
didn't know were in your life

987
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:13,839
and boy i mean

988
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:16,800
that creeped me out and uh i i bet it

989
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:19,040
did right yeah because i thought to

990
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,240
myself

991
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:22,240
what are we really because why would

992
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,319
this only be in my life

993
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,480
why is it in a lot of lives and maybe

994
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:28,079
all lives

995
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:30,240
you know and there are people who

996
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:33,680
scorn me and bully me uh in any of the

997
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,160
experiences we all have that happen

998
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,560
but uh i always think you know the

999
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,560
people who do that are the ones who

1000
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:41,920
can't face

1001
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:44,400
what's in their lives

1002
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:45,760
and

1003
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,760
you know what are we

1004
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:50,079
what are we

1005
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:51,599
i think that's the most interesting

1006
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,680
question of all i think it's much more

1007
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,040
interesting question whether or not the

1008
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,440
visitors or aliens will never figure out

1009
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,200
what they are i don't think

1010
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:01,920
until they until they walk into the into

1011
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,839
the house and sit down and say okay

1012
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,040
we're done

1013
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,839
playing games head games with you

1014
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:11,760
we have completely driven an entire

1015
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:14,560
species insane it was fun

1016
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,319
now it's done now we're going to tell

1017
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,960
you what's really going on

1018
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:21,200
now also you're going to just disappear

1019
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,560
without a trace

1020
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:24,240
yeah sure sure

1021
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,800
and um so many i think and everybody

1022
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:31,440
that has ever read communion or held the

1023
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:32,319
book

1024
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,599
um has always commented about the cover

1025
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:37,680
you've heard this millions of times and

1026
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:40,640
i get that um and how the cover affected

1027
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:41,520
them

1028
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,319
um and with the new edition of the book

1029
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,079
we have a new cover

1030
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:48,560
and tell us about that and and

1031
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:50,079
well very good you're holding it up so

1032
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,520
they can see it's that's the the um

1033
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:55,680
if you look at the eyes they have irises

1034
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,319
in them now the idea being

1035
00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:01,119
that now the figure

1036
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,160
excuse me

1037
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,319
is looking back at you this is the

1038
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:05,839
original painting

1039
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:08,319
yes the old eyes and you can see the

1040
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,520
difference

1041
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,520
and uh

1042
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,880
because they're looking back at us

1043
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:14,400
they've been with us now

1044
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,880
for i mean maybe they've been with us

1045
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,720
for all time i don't know

1046
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:21,119
but they've certainly been with us

1047
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,280
uh in a more open way since the 40s

1048
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:27,839
since the world began to

1049
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,960
suffer possible terminal upheavals

1050
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:32,640
because it's very one thing is very

1051
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,240
obvious they

1052
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:36,160
they may be good guys they may be bad

1053
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:38,240
guys we don't know exactly what's going

1054
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:39,760
on there but there is one thing that's

1055
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:43,200
very clear they do want us to survive

1056
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,920
and

1057
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,000
maybe it's for reasons that

1058
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,680
we wouldn't like

1059
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,240
but but the bottom line is they would

1060
00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:52,480
like us to survive and that i can show

1061
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:54,000
very clearly

1062
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:56,000
um

1063
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,990
in any case the idea is they're now

1064
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:04,079
looking back at us

1065
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:04,960
and

1066
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,520
getting closer to us

1067
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,760
and there is

1068
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:11,680
it's it's now

1069
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:12,559
uh

1070
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:18,079
generational work

1071
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:19,040
yeah

1072
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:23,200
it did to to see it not only um you know

1073
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,200
the right way you know to have legs in

1074
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:27,280
the publishing industry you know like

1075
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,000
something has legs it it continues on

1076
00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:32,640
well communion has

1077
00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:34,559
tremendous legs

1078
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:37,599
and here we are in 2022 now we're it you

1079
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:39,760
know it's a generational thing

1080
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:43,599
and now uh the book is available with a

1081
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,559
new cover and a new forward and

1082
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,119
and you have the rights to the book

1083
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,720
um and

1084
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:53,520
as crazy as it sounds there are going to

1085
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,400
be

1086
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,200
uh new generations reading the book that

1087
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,040
have never read it before and that's got

1088
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:01,040
to make you feel pretty good

1089
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:04,800
well it's amazing you know because

1090
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,520
and

1091
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:06,720
i think it

1092
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:09,280
it one of the reasons is the book is

1093
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:13,200
not outmoded because the visitors are

1094
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,559
are

1095
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:16,960
grant so gradually

1096
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:20,079
coming forth they're very very gradual

1097
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:20,880
and

1098
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,040
you know i'm writing a book now about

1099
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:24,880
communicating with them

1100
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,440
that's based on the

1101
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:29,680
letters that we got after the after

1102
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:31,839
communion was published because

1103
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:35,599
after communion was was was published

1104
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:39,119
the the face was like that was contact

1105
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,640
that was the first

1106
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,319
that face appearing in all these

1107
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:44,079
bookstores and on television and

1108
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:45,440
everywhere

1109
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:46,800
triggered

1110
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:49,599
millions of people into realizing that

1111
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,280
that weird dream they had was no dream

1112
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:54,880
and

1113
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,280
they started writing us letters

1114
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,240
and and thank god my wife said you know

1115
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:03,119
i was just overwhelmed i mean there were

1116
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,440
piles of letters

1117
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:07,440
four feet high in the

1118
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,040
middle of our living room and the

1119
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,280
mailmen were coming in every day

1120
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,920
with four or five full bags of letters

1121
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,760
and pouring them out

1122
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:18,000
and i said annie we gotta get rid of

1123
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:20,000
this this is a fair hazard

1124
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,760
and she said no we're not getting rid of

1125
00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:23,760
it we're reading them all

1126
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,920
i said you're insane we can't read all

1127
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,839
these she said well you might not be

1128
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:29,280
able to but i can't

1129
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,280
and she started got a letter open and

1130
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:32,960
started opening and never saw anything

1131
00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:34,559
she would read a letter

1132
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,839
catalog it with a certain set of of

1133
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:40,640
uh

1134
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,160
symbols that she had put it aside

1135
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,000
and she kept them

1136
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,000
she kept all of the letters that had

1137
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,400
anything substantive in him a lot of

1138
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:52,000
them were saying yeah this happened to

1139
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:53,680
me thank you for writing the book you

1140
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:55,599
know a couple of sentences

1141
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:57,040
because in those days people actually

1142
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,720
wrote letters we didn't have email it

1143
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,880
wasn't didn't happen yet but many of

1144
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:02,800
these letters it turned out to be about

1145
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,839
36 000 of them

1146
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:07,280
had

1147
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,480
complex

1148
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,559
stories

1149
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:12,319
and

1150
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:15,520
amazing stories not like my story they

1151
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:18,640
weren't all repeats of my story at all

1152
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,480
they were really unusual stories by the

1153
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:24,079
thousands

1154
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:24,960
and

1155
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,160
they sat in a storage space in texas for

1156
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:32,400
25 years

1157
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:34,000
and then suddenly

1158
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,000
uh jeff cripel the uh i believe he's the

1159
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,839
was or maybe still is the head of

1160
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,200
department of religion at rice

1161
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,839
university in houston decided he wanted

1162
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,920
to put them in an archive

1163
00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:47,680
and so now they're archived at this

1164
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,839
university this big prestigious

1165
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:51,359
university

1166
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:52,480
and

1167
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,520
you know

1168
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:55,440
scholars can read them and they are an

1169
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,160
amazing story they are this they are the

1170
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,720
first story of human contact

1171
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:02,480
with another

1172
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:05,119
level of reality or another world

1173
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:07,359
we don't accept that yet i mean there's

1174
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,680
still people as i said earlier dumping

1175
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:11,599
on the experiencers

1176
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:13,839
but the truth is

1177
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,720
it's real and the letters are a

1178
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,720
testament to what it's like

1179
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,559
they were incredibly precious as it

1180
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:22,720
turned out

1181
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,520
the are are they going to be i know that

1182
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:28,000
they're archived are they accessible to

1183
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:29,839
anybody that wants to go and read them

1184
00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:32,319
uh yeah you have to go there and you

1185
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:34,760
have to i think you have to sign a

1186
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:37,119
confidentiality because uh

1187
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,800
there's um

1188
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:40,800
addresses and names and private

1189
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,240
information yeah

1190
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,559
exactly and and you can't i don't think

1191
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,480
you can take copies out

1192
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:49,119
uh but you can read them and

1193
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,000
uh

1194
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:52,400
they're available for scholarly research

1195
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,040
and i'm hoping we'll find the money

1196
00:53:01,910 --> 00:52:57,440
somewhere to digitize the whole

1197
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:01,920
the whole archive and then we can apply

1198
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:04,000
really sophisticated

1199
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:04,880
uh

1200
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,839
artificial intelligence analysis to them

1201
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:09,599
and we will find out things that we

1202
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:12,079
never imagined when we are able to do

1203
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:15,520
that but it's going to cost they think

1204
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,480
somewhere

1205
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,559
just north of a million dollars to do

1206
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:20,079
this

1207
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,520
you're not looking at a guy with

1208
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:23,760
anything like a million dollars no right

1209
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:26,880
right right um uh we had dinner a couple

1210
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:29,440
of weeks ago here at my house

1211
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:30,640
and

1212
00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:34,400
um i had asked you i i

1213
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,319
you would think by now i i have asked

1214
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:38,400
you every possible question that that

1215
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:39,920
could be asked

1216
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:41,440
but we were

1217
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,079
sitting uh with some friends and i said

1218
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,800
have you have you read those letters and

1219
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,640
what was your response because it was

1220
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:50,800
great

1221
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,200
good lord you excited me to remember

1222
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:55,760
what i said a week ago

1223
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:58,160
at dinner at your house in the dead of

1224
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,400
the night

1225
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:01,920
my response

1226
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,880
was that i hadn't read them all

1227
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:07,280
i hadn't read them all and read them all

1228
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,800
and i read the one she gave me to read

1229
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,640
and uh

1230
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:14,720
uh she uh

1231
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,359
but i don't remember exactly what i said

1232
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:20,000
no that was your answer and read them

1233
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:21,839
and read every one of them

1234
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:24,480
and read every single one

1235
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,040
that's right and so when it goes through

1236
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:29,200
the and filter

1237
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:31,119
you know over to you

1238
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:32,160
um

1239
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:33,920
that's got to be a pretty

1240
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,839
a pretty cool read

1241
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,119
how are you yeah

1242
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,280
she would she would hand me a stack of

1243
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:41,760
letters and said say read these

1244
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,559
and i would read them and they were

1245
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:46,400
well

1246
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,200
they they were just amazing and now i'm

1247
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,079
revisiting them for the new book after

1248
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,319
being involved in this and you know i

1249
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:56,799
didn't have just one contact

1250
00:55:03,270 --> 00:54:59,359
visitors came into my life and and

1251
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:03,280
they're still in it it's not over

1252
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:04,720
although i don't write about that

1253
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:07,520
anymore i'm writing you know i don't

1254
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:09,040
write about my own experience much

1255
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:10,640
anymore the last time i touched on it

1256
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,680
was in

1257
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:13,520
a new world which i published in the

1258
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:16,160
summer of 2019

1259
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:21,030
they um

1260
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:22,960
they came back

1261
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,839
and

1262
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:26,240
they engaged with me

1263
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,599
and

1264
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:29,680
i've also done an enormous amount of

1265
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,240
research not only into them and of the

1266
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:34,559
close encounter experience but into the

1267
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,799
brain and the way it works

1268
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,079
into

1269
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,640
various different states that that we

1270
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,960
get into at different levels of fear and

1271
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:44,079
all

1272
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:49,359
that research to these letters

1273
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:52,720
and and having and it's amazing

1274
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:55,520
that not only did she

1275
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,440
select a group of letters but the

1276
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:59,119
weirdest thing is

1277
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:00,839
there's an

1278
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:03,359
organization to the letters that she

1279
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,480
selected that i didn't even see

1280
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:08,640
that she apparently saw i just have to

1281
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,520
wonder

1282
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:11,440
why was she so

1283
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:13,760
very capable of handling this

1284
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:15,760
i don't really know my wife's background

1285
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:18,079
very well i know she had

1286
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:20,000
family troubles and was estranged from

1287
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:21,680
her family

1288
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:22,400
but

1289
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:23,920
she used to say well i really don't

1290
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:25,599
remember much about my childhood her

1291
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:26,640
mother

1292
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,400
tragically committed suicide when she

1293
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,640
was seven years old

1294
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,480
but um

1295
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:34,640
and she had a hard time after that

1296
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:36,000
obviously

1297
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:36,880
but

1298
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,079
uh

1299
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,960
i just don't know she was more capable

1300
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:41,680
of

1301
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:44,240
handling this whole thing than i was or

1302
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,480
that i had any idea she was until now

1303
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,480
when i'm beginning to work with the

1304
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:52,799
letters and realizing what she really

1305
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,760
accomplished with them it's incredible

1306
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,319
incredible

1307
00:57:01,349 --> 00:57:00,079
we're going to go to a break in in two

1308
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:01,359
minutes but i want to make another

1309
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:03,920
comment about dinner uh the other night

1310
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:06,240
if you don't mind i know it was private

1311
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:07,760
but uh

1312
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,319
but it was funny to me and

1313
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,960
in the same moment i got really anxious

1314
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,839
but i

1315
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:15,359
so everybody i'm sitting out we're

1316
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:16,640
outside

1317
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:19,119
and i turned to whitley and and you know

1318
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,799
we were planning on a sky watch and

1319
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,799
doing all these things and i turned to

1320
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,240
whitley and i said

1321
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:26,079
do you think the visitors will come and

1322
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:27,839
hang out with us and this is what

1323
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:30,720
whitley does he sits back in the chair

1324
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:35,349
maybe

1325
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,119
right and

1326
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:39,119
yeah yeah and when he said i got all

1327
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:40,960
anxious i thought man

1328
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:44,160
what this would be the night right wow

1329
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:47,440
but it was you were so nonchalant about

1330
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:50,480
it and and you just looked yeah okay

1331
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:52,720
yeah i mean they do come around you know

1332
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:55,200
they they come around here a lot they do

1333
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,240
not need i mean you know forget

1334
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:00,559
the idea of them flying around in ufos

1335
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:03,440
and having to hide and stuff they're far

1336
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:05,920
beyond that they can control

1337
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:06,960
their

1338
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:10,799
presence in physical reality to the nth

1339
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:11,760
degree

1340
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,559
they can control it completely

1341
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:17,280
and they can go anywhere they want to

1342
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:20,559
they're so far beyond where we are

1343
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,720
they dip into the physical world like we

1344
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:24,880
would into a swimming pool with the

1345
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:27,680
difference that we are very limited in

1346
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:29,200
the swimming pool but they are not

1347
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:31,040
limited in the physical world they can

1348
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:33,680
be in it and then leave it and come back

1349
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:37,839
to it as they wish

1350
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:38,960
and

1351
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:41,680
would you have because like i said your

1352
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:45,200
nonchalant uh response to that

1353
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,119
you wouldn't have been surprised right

1354
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:49,680
no not at all they show up in my life

1355
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,880
all the time

1356
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:51,760
uh

1357
00:59:10,309 --> 00:58:52,640
i

1358
00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:10,319
shake the hand

1359
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:12,559
of the man of the house in the middle of

1360
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:14,559
the night woke him up

1361
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:16,240
and uh

1362
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:17,920
he said you know was that one of your

1363
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:20,319
people whitley i said yeah i guess i

1364
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:21,359
guess they're

1365
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,000
they like you you know he shook your

1366
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:26,319
hand

1367
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:29,680
that was a great evening and um i i

1368
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,559
gotta say what what was so much fun uh

1369
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:33,680
for me

1370
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:36,720
uh we had a pretty uh uh eclectic uh

1371
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:39,200
different uh uh group of friends which

1372
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:41,520
is you know the way i like to do it

1373
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,319
but uh to have everybody

1374
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:46,400
uh so engaged

1375
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:48,640
uh with an opportunity to sit down with

1376
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:49,520
you

1377
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:51,440
and and just ask questions and have a

1378
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:53,599
conversation thank you thank you you

1379
00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:55,440
also are a good cook no matter what you

1380
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:57,520
may or may not say yeah

1381
01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:00,480
it was your help but no it wasn't

1382
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:02,240
i didn't help you at all i just ate the

1383
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:03,359
food

1384
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:05,599
but that was an amazing five six hour

1385
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:08,000
conversation man and it was yeah

1386
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:09,920
absolutely and it went on after i left i

1387
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,599
know you guys were

1388
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:13,520
kept at it until uh

1389
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:16,640
three four in the morning yeah exactly i

1390
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:19,119
went home i had a long drive back to

1391
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:22,000
back to santa monica from the high

1392
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:23,280
desert so

1393
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:24,720
so there you go let's take our break

1394
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:27,200
right here our guest tonight kicking off

1395
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,880
this week an amazing week here in fade

1396
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:30,960
to black whitley strieber is with us

1397
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:34,319
tonight is communion 2.0 the book is in

1398
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:36,650
re-release whitley's got the rights back

1399
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:42,549
it's got a new cover it's got a new

1400
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:44,960
forward and we've got the links where

1401
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:46,960
you can go and get it right now

1402
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:49,200
this is faded black i am your host jimmy

1403
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:51,920
church more with whitley after this

1404
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short break stay with us

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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planet and you're listening to my good

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to fade to black with jimmy church who

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astrological chart since 1963. true

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01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:33,440
this is micah hanks of the ghrelian

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[Music]

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01:06:01,670 --> 01:05:59,680
welcome back fade to black i am your

1507
01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:01,680
host jimmy church

1508
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:04,559
do you see the picture i posted

1509
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:07,280
whitley linda richard and i back but i'd

1510
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:09,920
say back in the day eight years ago

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01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:13,039
man we've all changed we've all changed

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01:06:16,309 --> 01:06:14,480
so much

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01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:16,319
but what a great week we have on the

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01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:18,000
show and of course tonight whitley is

1515
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:18,880
with us

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01:06:23,589 --> 01:06:20,319
and uh

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01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:23,599
now i'm calling this show uh for obvious

1518
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:26,960
reasons uh communion 2.0

1519
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:30,640
and i want to address something whitley

1520
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:34,160
um in that i think that uh you've turned

1521
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:36,400
on your air conditioning haven't you i'm

1522
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:38,720
sorry yeah

1523
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:41,760
see whitley we are like the rest of the

1524
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:43,440
world right now we're in the middle of

1525
01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:45,200
climate change

1526
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,760
and whitley's got the blistering 72

1527
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:49,680
degrees going on in santa monica yeah

1528
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:51,200
but to be fair

1529
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:54,559
it's hot in this apartment anyway

1530
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:55,839
and uh

1531
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:57,760
whitley when you're done and you think

1532
01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:59,119
you're fed up

1533
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:01,039
with the heat come on up and

1534
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:02,720
hang out with me oh yeah i'll come out

1535
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:06,240
to the desert where it's like 153

1536
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:09,359
yes what an egg or my bald spot yeah

1537
01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:12,480
literally literally i am worried i am i

1538
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:14,559
find myself wearing a hat outside now

1539
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:17,920
but here's the thing i i i feel that and

1540
01:07:22,069 --> 01:07:20,160
and you know this to be true that

1541
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:22,079
we have uh

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01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:24,480
the uf of the experiencer community it's

1543
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:27,599
kind of divided up into three factions

1544
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,480
and where you have one side where

1545
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:32,480
everything is pretty chill and cool with

1546
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:35,359
contact you have the middle that sees

1547
01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:37,039
both sides then you have the other side

1548
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:38,000
like that

1549
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:41,440
my experiences have been terrifying bad

1550
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:42,400
news

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01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:44,400
right and i've been all

1552
01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:46,400
i've been in all three places you've

1553
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:48,799
been in all three but we ann and i had

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01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:51,280
the worst of the worst of this happened

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01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:52,640
to us

1556
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:55,520
and my initial experience

1557
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:56,480
was

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01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:58,880
unbelievably terrifying

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01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:01,680
i mean i i damn well

1560
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:05,119
went to bed on a normal night with no

1561
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,559
idea

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01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:08,559
that anything like this could ever

1563
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,559
happen to anyone

1564
01:08:16,149 --> 01:08:12,960
and woke up in the middle of a

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01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,159
little confined room full of giant what

1566
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:18,640
looked to me like giant insects and i

1567
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:21,279
could not move

1568
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:23,600
and they proceeded to rape me

1569
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:26,239
and really rough me up

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01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:31,829
the next morning i was traumatic

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01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,359
traumatized

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01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:34,960
i was

1573
01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:38,400
my mind was blown i did not know

1574
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:40,000
whether i was coming or going they had

1575
01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:41,839
done something to

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01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:45,040
screw up my memory or i was so panicked

1577
01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:47,199
that i had amnesia i'm not sure which it

1578
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,719
was

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01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:50,560
but i went from there

1580
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:53,199
to where i am now

1581
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:54,880
all these years later

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01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:58,480
because basically when it took about

1583
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:01,040
a month or month two months maybe

1584
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:03,199
to get this together and realize that

1585
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:06,319
something real had happened and that

1586
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:08,880
these had not been human beings by any

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01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:11,040
in any definition of that term that i

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01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:12,880
understood

1589
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:15,279
and anna and i eventually you know annie

1590
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:17,759
was such a she was so cool

1591
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:18,880
she

1592
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:20,400
you know i i

1593
01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:23,040
we really went through hell because

1594
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:24,719
i i was having

1595
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:29,040
what now we know his ptsd symptoms and

1596
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:31,520
we were fighting like crazy

1597
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:32,839
and

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01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:35,440
finally uh

1599
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,440
i got to the point

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01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,359
after all the medical tests and

1601
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,359
everything are over

1602
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,279
i had to face the fact

1603
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,679
that my memory on some level must be

1604
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:47,279
real

1605
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,040
and so i called a

1606
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:51,359
friend uh an old friend he's still a

1607
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:52,480
dear friend

1608
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:55,520
and i said to him timothy

1609
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:58,080
this is what happened to me

1610
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,000
and he says okay

1611
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:02,560
i'm still with you i think

1612
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,040
now what so well what i want to know is

1613
01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:08,159
i want some advice what do i say to anne

1614
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:11,199
and he said ann you haven't told ann

1615
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:12,960
i said no i haven't told ann i don't

1616
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,600
know how to tell anne

1617
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:17,760
he said just tell her she's gonna roll

1618
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:20,400
with it and it's anne for god's sake

1619
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,199
she'll

1620
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:23,360
she will roll with it

1621
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:25,120
and i didn't believe it but i finally i

1622
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:26,640
sat her down and

1623
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:28,159
i said annie listen i've got something

1624
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:30,159
to tell you and we'd been fighting so

1625
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:31,679
much he was afraid i was about to ask

1626
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,239
for a separation or something

1627
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:36,480
and i said

1628
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:38,320
honey

1629
01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:40,480
i think i was taken aboard a flying

1630
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:43,120
saucer by little men

1631
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:45,360
and she looks at me

1632
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:47,840
she says oh thank god i thought you were

1633
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:53,270
i married the right woman

1634
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,440
and then just both worked out and we

1635
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,040
looked at each other like

1636
01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:00,960
is this insane or is this completely

1637
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,159
insane and we just laughed our heads off

1638
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,640
and that's when the change started

1639
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:09,600
was that a sense of relief for you

1640
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:12,800
my wife was on my side right she did not

1641
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:14,000
say

1642
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:15,280
okay

1643
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,719
let's let's

1644
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,640
go to the insane asylum together i'll

1645
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:20,640
let you off and send you the divorce

1646
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:22,800
papers by mail

1647
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:24,640
she did not say that

1648
01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:27,040
she said the opposite she said basically

1649
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:29,120
oh great i was afraid you were going

1650
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,800
crazy but since you now know you were

1651
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:32,400
taken aboard a flying saucer by little

1652
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:34,960
men i realized you are not crazy let's

1653
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:42,390
you mentioned earlier um and i know you

1654
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:44,239
know you've uh talked about this many

1655
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:45,760
times but

1656
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:46,800
um

1657
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:48,719
when you have

1658
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:52,000
it isn't one race of beings right but

1659
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,320
but on on the other side of this we have

1660
01:11:59,590 --> 01:11:57,040
descriptions

1661
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,600
of of contact from so many uh

1662
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,280
experiencers

1663
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,280
and linda will tell you all about all

1664
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:05,120
kinds of different species i i don't

1665
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:06,800
kind of keep up with that because i'm

1666
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,320
fixed on what i experience

1667
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:12,159
uh

1668
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:16,400
personally and what i've seen that i i

1669
01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:18,320
can tell you about what i've seen

1670
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:20,719
but i'm not into i'm not a reporter in

1671
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:23,840
other words and so i'm not gonna

1672
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:25,520
gonna um

1673
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:28,080
put it in a spreadsheet yeah exactly i

1674
01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:29,840
mean i i can tell you about what i've

1675
01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:32,320
seen and what i've interacted with now

1676
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:34,480
uh and and the reason why i'm asking is

1677
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,880
because today where we have science on

1678
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:40,400
our side

1679
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:44,239
uh reporting uh you know exoplanets and

1680
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,280
every solar system every star has got

1681
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:49,040
planets and and

1682
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:51,040
and with the size of not only the milky

1683
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,120
way but certainly uh extending out to

1684
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:55,199
the rest of the universe that there must

1685
01:13:01,510 --> 01:12:59,120
be an infinite extraordinary amount of

1686
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:01,520
intelligent life out there

1687
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,560
um and it it's got to vary it's

1688
01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:06,800
everything's got to be different

1689
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:09,520
and so what could possibly be reaching

1690
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:12,719
out to us uh and contacting us they are

1691
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:14,000
coming from different parts of the

1692
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:15,360
galaxy in different parts of the

1693
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:18,400
universe and they may not even know each

1694
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:20,719
other and it's got to be

1695
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,520
like the colors of benetton right

1696
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:25,520
okay listen there are a lot of problems

1697
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:27,520
with what you're saying and a lot of

1698
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:29,679
truth about it too

1699
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:33,040
now the first problem is this

1700
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:35,040
are we

1701
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,440
the unluckiest species in the universe

1702
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:41,600
or are we the weirdest

1703
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:43,199
because

1704
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:47,679
in all of that immense vastness

1705
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:49,520
we end up

1706
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:52,000
with entities

1707
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:52,800
that

1708
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,040
seem to us to be

1709
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:57,280
fantastically weird

1710
01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:58,560
that have

1711
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:01,360
very strange capabilities

1712
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:03,840
that will not let us focus on them in

1713
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:06,239
some definite any definite way

1714
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:07,280
and yet

1715
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:08,640
do have

1716
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:11,679
physical devices that fly around in our

1717
01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:16,480
skies so there is a physical level to it

1718
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:19,040
now is it because we are weird or is

1719
01:14:23,350 --> 01:14:21,360
because we just happen to get the weird

1720
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:23,360
ones and if there's more than one

1721
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:26,000
species here they do all have one thing

1722
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:28,960
in common they're all secretive

1723
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:30,719
they're all capable of becoming

1724
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:32,960
invisible at a moment's notice

1725
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:35,679
and they do not leave any evidence

1726
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:36,719
except

1727
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:38,960
the stuff it from roswell

1728
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:42,400
and a few other things over the years so

1729
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:44,880
what is really going on here i mean i

1730
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:48,239
just don't get it and what is i mean you

1731
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:51,600
if you come to a planet

1732
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:53,280
and you see there's an intelligent

1733
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:55,120
species they may not think they're all

1734
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:57,120
that intelligent they may think they're

1735
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:59,120
basically just advanced animals you may

1736
01:15:01,189 --> 01:15:00,400
think anything

1737
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,199
but

1738
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:04,080
is your is your choice

1739
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:06,239
to rough them up

1740
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:09,520
uh to rape them to steal semen from them

1741
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:12,000
to steal eggs and from them

1742
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:15,600
to babies from them to go right into the

1743
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:19,120
wheelhouse of that species reality

1744
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:21,280
make what is there

1745
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:23,760
because that's what happened

1746
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:25,440
doesn't happen so much anymore but it

1747
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,199
happened for a long time

1748
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:29,120
and uh

1749
01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:32,000
come on i mean would we do that that way

1750
01:15:37,510 --> 01:15:35,360
i don't think so but we do do it when we

1751
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:37,520
go into the rainforest at the amazon

1752
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:40,000
well that's true i have to admit we do

1753
01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:43,120
it to animals and so maybe maybe that's

1754
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:45,120
maybe they looked at what was going on

1755
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:45,920
here

1756
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:48,080
and said these are very interesting

1757
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,600
creatures

1758
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:51,280
they're pretty screwed up and they're

1759
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:52,719
going to ruin their planet and they're

1760
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:54,560
going to go extinct soon

1761
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,040
let's make a seed bank or let's make a

1762
01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:59,360
model of them out of their own dna and

1763
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:01,520
see what they're really all about behind

1764
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:02,800
the scenes

1765
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:05,040
and you know i mean we wouldn't think

1766
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:07,679
twice we don't think twice about taking

1767
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:10,640
animals out of the forest and

1768
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:12,800
imprisoning them in zoos for the rest of

1769
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:16,640
their lives we don't think twice about

1770
01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:19,360
separating parents and children in the

1771
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:21,199
animal world we don't think twice about

1772
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:23,600
methodically butchering them by the

1773
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:25,040
thousands

1774
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:27,280
so that you jimmy

1775
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:28,719
can have

1776
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,790
and and and and here's the and

1777
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:36,880
okay whitley yes

1778
01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:38,080
you something

1779
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:39,199
young man

1780
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:40,159
okay

1781
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:43,600
you showed up at you know on proxima

1782
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:46,239
centauri you showed up at some planet in

1783
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:47,760
zeta reticuli

1784
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,000
and you step off the spaceship you know

1785
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:52,640
you know the little kid alien is gonna

1786
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:54,880
run home to his parents and go

1787
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,080
i saw an alien today and this dude was a

1788
01:17:01,430 --> 01:17:00,080
freak right

1789
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:01,440
but it's true

1790
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:03,920
yeah yeah but wouldn't we try to

1791
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:06,000
communicate with them in some reason

1792
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:08,080
reasonable way

1793
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:10,960
or not maybe i i know maybe not i don't

1794
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:13,920
know but but i don't think that i i

1795
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:16,640
don't think things are completely right

1796
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:18,880
or it wouldn't be like this

1797
01:17:21,709 --> 01:17:19,760
like

1798
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:21,719
if if

1799
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:24,480
anthropologists would say

1800
01:17:28,630 --> 01:17:26,960
if we found another species on another

1801
01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:28,640
planet and they had never been out of

1802
01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:30,800
their planet and they did not know there

1803
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:32,480
were any other intelligence species in

1804
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,840
the universe the first thing they would

1805
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,360
say was

1806
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:37,360
do not

1807
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:40,719
under any circumstances contact them

1808
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:43,360
let us figure them out first

1809
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,159
and we would go in and we would get dna

1810
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:48,640
we would get biological materials

1811
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,080
we would not show ourselves

1812
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:54,000
in other words we would be

1813
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:55,360
to them

1814
01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:57,679
just as they are to us now these

1815
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,040
advanced this

1816
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:01,040
what it it would be like that but only

1817
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:02,719
for a while

1818
01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:05,440
and right now our planet is in crisis

1819
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:07,520
and if the crisis is going to come as

1820
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:09,679
you will find i think in another year or

1821
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:12,640
so is coming it down on us a lot faster

1822
01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:14,320
than we realize

1823
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:19,030
you would think that they would have the

1824
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:21,840
capability of warning us or helping us

1825
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:23,679
or helping us get our act together at

1826
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:25,760
least because our act is absolutely not

1827
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:27,199
together

1828
01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:30,000
on this in any country in the world to

1829
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:31,760
any great extent

1830
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:33,920
and a lot of countries give it lip

1831
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,400
service but they

1832
01:18:39,669 --> 01:18:38,239
give climate change lip service but no

1833
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:39,679
one's doing

1834
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:42,239
what needs to be done and there's no

1835
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:44,480
sign that anyone will

1836
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:48,560
so wouldn't we help them at that point

1837
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:50,239
if we wanted them to survive as the

1838
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:51,760
visitors obviously do they've been

1839
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:53,679
warning us about climate change for

1840
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:54,960
years

1841
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:56,880
and they've been warning us about the

1842
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:59,280
danger of nuclear war too by showing up

1843
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,040
at missile sites in

1844
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:03,360
a lot in both in russia and the united

1845
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:05,760
states cases that are

1846
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:08,159
extensively documented that are real

1847
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,440
they happened

1848
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,120
and

1849
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:12,960
so you put those two things together

1850
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:15,520
those are our two main extinction

1851
01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:16,719
problem

1852
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:19,520
issues is nuclear nuclear war

1853
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:20,640
and

1854
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:24,960
about both of them that means that no

1855
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:27,280
matter what their motives are they do

1856
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:29,199
want us to survive

1857
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:33,679
they would have to have if they

1858
01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:37,840
if they have the ability to come to us

1859
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:40,480
right in an interstellar fashion if they

1860
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:42,560
have the ability to come to us

1861
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:45,760
then that means they have overcome

1862
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:46,640
uh

1863
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:49,040
all the things that we are facing now

1864
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:51,280
one you know killing yourselves uh

1865
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:52,719
through war

1866
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,520
they've survived disease and famine

1867
01:20:00,390 --> 01:19:58,000
they've survived another alien attack

1868
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:00,400
right from somewhere else they've

1869
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:02,159
survived uh

1870
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:05,520
cosmic catastrophes um asteroids and

1871
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:08,800
comets and solar flares they've survived

1872
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:10,239
all of that

1873
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:12,880
right and and we have to accept that

1874
01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:14,960
part of it they would have to have

1875
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:17,360
evolved because they didn't kill

1876
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:21,199
themselves off or were um uh you know

1877
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,159
went through some extinction event

1878
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,400
uh that we uh constantly no no i mean

1879
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:28,080
they may have had a hell of a history

1880
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:29,679
you don't know what happened to them

1881
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,120
that's what i'm saying they would have

1882
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:33,520
had to have survived interstellar wars

1883
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:35,040
for god's sakes i mean i think they're

1884
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:37,520
inconceivable to us yeah absolutely our

1885
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:39,840
wars could be real

1886
01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:44,400
and now and the other part um is

1887
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:46,639
how much time

1888
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:50,000
would they have to spend

1889
01:20:56,629 --> 01:20:53,120
checking us out when there's another 80

1890
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:56,639
billion you know plant earth-like rocky

1891
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:58,960
you know planets in the goldilocks zone

1892
01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:02,000
just in our milky way to go and check

1893
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:04,719
out and to catalog and give a name and

1894
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:05,760
and

1895
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:07,760
i was going to get to this

1896
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:09,679
and here's an answer to that i've talked

1897
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:12,560
to us some statistics statisticians

1898
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:16,719
about this and if there are

1899
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:18,880
millions and millions of

1900
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:21,840
intelligence of life bearing planets in

1901
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:25,280
the universe which there probably are

1902
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:27,280
and we have

1903
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:30,159
so many different species here

1904
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,239
it means there is an unusual level of

1905
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:34,800
interest in us

1906
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:36,159
it means that

1907
01:21:39,669 --> 01:21:37,840
they have

1908
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:39,679
there are so many out if there are so

1909
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:43,120
many out there to choose from and this

1910
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:44,000
is a

1911
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:45,760
regular convention

1912
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:46,480
of

1913
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:50,960
you that it is

1914
01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:52,960
then there's something going on here

1915
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:54,840
that's very

1916
01:22:01,750 --> 01:21:58,800
unusual and something that about us

1917
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:01,760
that we don't fully understand

1918
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:05,440
that they are very very interested in

1919
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:09,440
here's my pandora's box with all of it

1920
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:10,800
just go with me

1921
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:13,360
here's my pandora's box e.t stops by

1922
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:14,960
here checks this out

1923
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:17,120
this is a beautiful blue planet i love

1924
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,440
this place i love hanging out and we do

1925
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:21,600
have las vegas right okay so we got that

1926
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:24,880
going for us but um

1927
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:26,960
there must be

1928
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:31,360
a cooler place

1929
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,400
than here in in other words etc cooler

1930
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:36,239
when they're here for sure

1931
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,480
what this plumber's been like yeah

1932
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,800
you know where they show up here you

1933
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:42,400
know what man they're killing each other

1934
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:44,800
they're shooting projectiles at each

1935
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:46,719
other they they don't have it together

1936
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:49,520
the consciousness is messed up let's go

1937
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:51,760
to that other planet that's a little

1938
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:54,719
more evolved it's a lot more fun and

1939
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:57,520
maybe they would interact there

1940
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:00,639
because they wouldn't have the issues of

1941
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:02,800
interaction that they have here on earth

1942
01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:05,040
and that's my pandora's box that we're

1943
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:06,960
blowing the opportunity because we're

1944
01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:10,159
just frankly not that cool

1945
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:11,600
well that's the other side of the coin

1946
01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:13,360
that could be the that could be the case

1947
01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:16,719
too it could be that the uh that the you

1948
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:18,960
know the third string stringers are the

1949
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:20,639
only ones that are here

1950
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:21,440
and

1951
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:23,520
you know that they they're so rough with

1952
01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:25,040
us because

1953
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:27,199
we don't matter enough they don't have

1954
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,800
to take care with us that we don't

1955
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:30,960
matter enough and they're not going to

1956
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:33,280
spend the resources of

1957
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:36,080
coming into contact with us because

1958
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:37,040
uh

1959
01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:39,040
we're not important and you know they've

1960
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:41,280
done the minimum they feel ethically

1961
01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:44,159
necessary to do to warn us of our peril

1962
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:48,080
and then if we don't respond and we we

1963
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:50,239
we start to have

1964
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:51,520
things start to get really screwed up

1965
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:53,199
here they're just going to leave

1966
01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:55,520
yeah we're too much

1967
01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:57,920
we're too much work

1968
01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:00,320
we're either incredibly special

1969
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:03,520
or completely uninteresting there's no

1970
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:05,840
middle ground there

1971
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:08,800
and now what do you make of uh we'll

1972
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,920
continue this after the break um

1973
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:14,400
uh what do you what do you make of the

1974
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,280
government suddenly uh having this kind

1975
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,199
of public interest in it they've always

1976
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:20,880
had interest but it's been behind the

1977
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:23,440
scenes but now it's it's in a public

1978
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:24,400
forum

1979
01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:26,800
uh there's there's got to be ultimately

1980
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:28,480
something going on here and end game

1981
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:31,120
what do you think that is well what's

1982
01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:33,360
they've what they've revealed here is

1983
01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:35,360
the tip of the tip of the tip of the

1984
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,639
iceberg

1985
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:38,800
there's a lot more going on under the

1986
01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:41,120
surface i can assure you

1987
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:42,840
for certain

1988
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:45,040
uh and

1989
01:24:49,510 --> 01:24:47,360
one of the things that

1990
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:49,520
one of the problems they have is

1991
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:51,840
the records have been poorly kept and

1992
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:53,600
they're not very clear records going

1993
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:55,199
back into the past

1994
01:25:00,149 --> 01:24:58,400
as to why it's happening now

1995
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,159
well

1996
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:02,880
i think it has probably got something to

1997
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:03,679
do

1998
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,560
with the crisis the planet is facing

1999
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:08,800
and that there's going to be some kind

2000
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:10,560
of an attempt on

2001
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:12,400
their part to

2002
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:16,400
become more in evidence but right now uh

2003
01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:20,719
the government is very scared of

2004
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:22,960
basically of one thing

2005
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:24,560
of admitting

2006
01:25:27,910 --> 01:25:25,360
that

2007
01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,920
the abductions happened

2008
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:29,360
there was nothing that they could do

2009
01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:32,960
about them and they don't understand it

2010
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:35,600
that is the one thing they don't want to

2011
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:36,480
admit

2012
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:38,880
they don't they do not want to say

2013
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:40,960
that the air force

2014
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:43,280
could not defend us from this threat

2015
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:45,440
from above

2016
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:48,880
and that it therefore lied to us about

2017
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:50,320
the threat

2018
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:52,880
they can't say that they can never say

2019
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:56,880
that so no matter what they do disclose

2020
01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:02,310
that makes a lot of sense you know that

2021
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:04,000
makes a lot of sense

2022
01:26:07,030 --> 01:26:04,880
and

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01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:07,040
um the

2024
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:10,080
is it is it is it misinformation is it

2025
01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:11,600
disinformation

2026
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:13,600
to have uh

2027
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:16,000
um you know like war the worlds right we

2028
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:19,520
defeat the invaders with uh a pathogen

2029
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,120
you know with a virus or you know

2030
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:25,520
our guerrilla factions after they've

2031
01:26:29,189 --> 01:26:27,120
blown up all the cities in the world

2032
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:29,199
that were able to band together in the

2033
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:32,080
woods with a homemade

2034
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:34,480
homemade molotov cocktail listen they

2035
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:38,239
are so far beyond where we are

2036
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:39,520
that

2037
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:42,159
they're they're not even in this space

2038
01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:43,280
right

2039
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:45,679
conflict with us at all

2040
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:47,520
i mean it may look like it then they may

2041
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:49,360
very well be in conflict with each other

2042
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:51,040
like linda thinks

2043
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:52,719
but uh

2044
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,080
they are not

2045
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:56,400
they are in complete and

2046
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,480
total control

2047
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:00,560
of everything

2048
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,199
that is public about them on planet

2049
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:05,840
earth and everything that is thought

2050
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:08,719
about them behind the scenes they are in

2051
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:09,840
control

2052
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:14,159
people who do not understand how to deal

2053
01:27:17,990 --> 01:27:16,320
with that which is many of the people in

2054
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:18,000
the government do not have any idea how

2055
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:19,280
to deal with that

2056
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:22,080
and therefore these people do their

2057
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:23,520
bidding

2058
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:26,800
imagining that they are creating policy

2059
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:29,760
on their own when they are not

2060
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:31,760
does

2061
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:33,760
are you comfortable with that

2062
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:35,440
i mean it does that

2063
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:37,040
what choice do we have i'm either

2064
01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:39,120
comfortable with it or what am i going

2065
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:40,560
to do

2066
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:42,880
go ah go after him with a spear and

2067
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:44,719
shake my spear at him like i used to do

2068
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:47,760
when i was a little boy apparently

2069
01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:49,280
no i don't think so there's nothing we

2070
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:50,960
can do about that they're they're going

2071
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:52,560
to do this their way

2072
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:53,600
and

2073
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:55,840
whatever they do

2074
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:57,040
is going to be

2075
01:28:02,870 --> 01:27:59,360
basically their decision we're not going

2076
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:02,880
to be able to disclose a single thing

2077
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,960
about them that they don't want the

2078
01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:06,320
public to know

2079
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:09,760
they are in absolute total control

2080
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:12,880
of every detail of that no matter what

2081
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:14,719
the congress says no matter what the

2082
01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:16,560
intelligence people say no matter what

2083
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:17,920
anyone says

2084
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:20,960
it's their ballgame from beginning to

2085
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:21,760
end

2086
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:24,320
did did did our government blow it

2087
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:27,360
though you know like yeah we did i think

2088
01:28:30,790 --> 01:28:29,760
that a basic mistake was made very early

2089
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:30,800
on

2090
01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:31,679
when

2091
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,080
it was initially given to the military

2092
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:35,920
very understandably

2093
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:37,120
when a

2094
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:39,920
an unknown object crashes

2095
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:42,159
within 30 miles of the most sensitive

2096
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:45,040
military base in the world the only base

2097
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:47,920
that that can deliver an atomic attack

2098
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:49,199
to russia

2099
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:51,440
at a time when russia's got four and a

2100
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:54,400
half million soldiers aching to sweep

2101
01:28:58,310 --> 01:28:56,719
across western europe and take the whole

2102
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:58,320
continent

2103
01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:00,800
and suddenly some unknown craft crashes

2104
01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:02,639
near there especially

2105
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:05,440
because we don't actually have that many

2106
01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:08,239
nuclear weapons we can't really deliver

2107
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:10,719
a very big blue so

2108
01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:12,960
yeah it ended up immediately in the

2109
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:14,719
hands of the military

2110
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:15,840
but when

2111
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:18,880
in arthur eckson the uh was a friend of

2112
01:29:22,390 --> 01:29:20,880
my family

2113
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:22,400
who was

2114
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:25,520
commandant at right pat for a long time

2115
01:29:30,629 --> 01:29:28,159
and who was present when the debris and

2116
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,639
the bodies were brought in to from

2117
01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:31,920
roswell

2118
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,639
to to to the air material command when

2119
01:29:38,950 --> 01:29:36,960
it was called right air force base july

2120
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:38,960
of 1947

2121
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:42,880
said everyone from truman on down knew

2122
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:44,960
that this was not of that what we had

2123
01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:47,840
found was not of this world within 24

2124
01:29:54,629 --> 01:29:50,719
hours of our finding it

2125
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:54,639
as soon as truman knew that

2126
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:56,960
he should have

2127
01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:00,159
said to the military stand down

2128
01:30:04,310 --> 01:30:03,120
do not shoot do not threaten do not

2129
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:04,320
resist

2130
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:07,199
and given it over to scientists

2131
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:09,679
social scientists and anthropologists

2132
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:12,639
and experts in culture

2133
01:30:17,189 --> 01:30:15,520
but he didn't do that he added a

2134
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:17,199
scientific team

2135
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:20,080
and left it in the hands of the military

2136
01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:23,280
and the military had an obligation

2137
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:25,199
to defend us

2138
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:27,440
from threats from above the in

2139
01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:30,239
particular the air force

2140
01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:33,040
and they attempted to do that

2141
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:36,480
and they initiated hostilities

2142
01:30:40,229 --> 01:30:39,120
years ago one of the blonde people said

2143
01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:40,239
to me

2144
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:43,040
that if you start a war with the graves

2145
01:30:49,990 --> 01:30:45,199
they will never let you stop

2146
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:51,750
where we are that's where we are and

2147
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:52,639
it's

2148
01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:57,120
understand the president united states

2149
01:31:01,030 --> 01:30:59,040
facing something like this

2150
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:01,040
and thinking

2151
01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:04,080
what what if i stand the military down

2152
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:05,679
and they just end up in everybody's

2153
01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:07,440
bedroom

2154
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:10,480
you know yeah you understand his dilemma

2155
01:31:14,470 --> 01:31:12,719
a horrible dilemma

2156
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:14,480
and i understand his reasoning is what

2157
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:16,800
he did but it was still

2158
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:17,600
not

2159
01:31:22,870 --> 01:31:20,080
the right thing to do it was a mistake

2160
01:31:24,790 --> 01:31:22,880
and one i probably i think anyone would

2161
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:24,800
have made the same mistake

2162
01:31:28,950 --> 01:31:26,239
let's take our break right here our

2163
01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:28,960
guest tonight whitley strieber

2164
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:31,280
what a week we have coming up on fade to

2165
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:33,040
black i am your host jimmy church

2166
01:31:37,830 --> 01:31:34,960
tonight is communion

2167
01:31:39,669 --> 01:31:37,840
2.0 more with whitley when we come back

2168
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:39,679
after this short break

2169
01:31:48,050 --> 01:31:53,830
[Music]

2170
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:56,170
me

2171
01:32:02,390 --> 01:31:59,280
[Music]

2172
01:32:04,590 --> 01:32:02,400
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2173
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:04,600
you're listening to fade to black

2174
01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:07,199
[Applause]

2175
01:32:10,870 --> 01:32:09,360
you're listening to jimmy church and

2176
01:32:16,010 --> 01:32:10,880
fade to black

2177
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:25,580
[Applause]

2178
01:32:29,830 --> 01:32:27,830
[Music]

2179
01:32:32,229 --> 01:32:29,840
the believer is the chilling true story

2180
01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:32,239
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2181
01:32:37,110 --> 01:32:34,560
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2182
01:32:39,830 --> 01:32:37,120
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2183
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2185
01:32:47,830 --> 01:32:45,199
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future of our country and where we're

2221
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:12,800
headed do you wonder about the food

2222
01:34:17,990 --> 01:34:15,840
supply i do disruptions in the food

2223
01:34:20,790 --> 01:34:18,000
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2224
01:34:22,790 --> 01:34:20,800
they usually occur with little warning

2225
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that's why the smartest thing you can do

2226
01:34:28,790 --> 01:34:25,840
today is to stockpile emergency food

2227
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hi i'm lisa vance you're listening to

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jimmy church this is revolution the

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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01:37:52,709 --> 01:37:51,430
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:52,719
host jimmy church tonight whitney

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01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:55,199
strieber is with us again we've got a

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really amazing week uh this week

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01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:58,560
tomorrow night

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01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:00,800
uh the guest is me and i'm going to do a

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01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:04,239
presentation on our humans e.t it's not

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going to be what you think maybe it is

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01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,000
but that's tomorrow night wednesday's

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01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:10,480
richard dolan thursday is linda moulton

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01:38:16,709 --> 01:38:13,199
howe tonight it is whitley strieber

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01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:16,719
and uh whitley okay um

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01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:19,280
i'm gonna oh

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01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:21,600
you know i'm gonna let everybody know uh

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01:38:26,709 --> 01:38:24,719
when i write whitley in email

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01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:26,719
i i am

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01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:28,080
always

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01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:29,199
conscious

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01:38:37,070 --> 01:38:33,199
of i'm writing a writer

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01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:37,080
i i look at every period comma

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01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:40,639
apostrophe verb noun

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01:38:45,189 --> 01:38:42,960
yeah so do i jimmy at your emails but

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01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:45,199
only yours everybody else can do

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01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:47,040
everything they want i'm waiting for the

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01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:50,800
grade to come back jimmy b minus

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01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:53,679
b minus b minus you got to up your game

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01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:55,760
church you wish

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01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:59,280
so um i wanted to ask you this though

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01:39:01,189 --> 01:39:00,320
um

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01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:01,199
uh

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01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:04,239
in your best estimation

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01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:04,960
uh

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01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:08,400
are we are are the visitors and other

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01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:10,800
visitors not just your visitors other

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01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:12,800
are they are they

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01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:15,520
physical like this in other words do

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01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:17,280
they need nourishment do they eat are

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01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,119
they energy beings

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01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:21,840
um are they are they appearing physical

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01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,560
but they're not maybe a holographic i

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01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:26,639
don't know what i'm suggesting here

2333
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:28,400
but um

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01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:29,679
what

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01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:31,520
is it a physical

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01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:33,760
you know do they need to drink water

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01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:37,840
right what what what what is going on

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01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:40,239
this is one of the great enigmas of the

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01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:42,639
thing because general exon

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01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:46,080
said to family members that he held

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01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:49,040
the body of one in his arms

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01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:50,480
and

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01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:53,760
if he held its body in his arms

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01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:55,119
then

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01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:57,040
that's a physical being

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01:40:02,149 --> 01:39:59,119
well how do you feed it but

2347
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:02,159
when when they come in here

2348
01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:03,040
they will

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01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:08,320
wake me up and they shaking all kinds of

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01:40:12,070 --> 01:40:11,360
things all without

2351
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:12,080
just

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01:40:17,750 --> 01:40:15,679
visible

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01:40:19,990 --> 01:40:17,760
very briefly

2354
01:40:20,830 --> 01:40:20,000
if if at all

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01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:20,840
and

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01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:25,600
was it

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01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:28,880
something else that crashed at roswell

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01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:30,719
and what we know now because i'm not the

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01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:31,679
only

2360
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:33,360
close encounter witness who's still in

2361
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:36,000
contact with them who's it's this way

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01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:38,320
with it's this way with all of us

2363
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:41,520
it's semi-physical at best

2364
01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:43,199
there's a physical

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01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:46,639
kind of override to it but it's not

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01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:48,080
uh

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01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:49,040
it's

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01:40:53,750 --> 01:40:51,760
i wouldn't i can't imagine them

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01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:53,760
like sitting down to dinner or anything

2370
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:54,960
like that

2371
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:57,040
i mean i often wonder do they have spare

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01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:57,920
time

2373
01:41:01,830 --> 01:40:59,760
in which case what do they do in their

2374
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:01,840
spare time i mean they play games i've

2375
01:41:06,070 --> 01:41:04,080
never seen any i've never heard any

2376
01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:06,080
music i've never seen any art i've never

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01:41:09,590 --> 01:41:08,639
seen any written things anything like

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01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:09,600
that

2379
01:41:13,109 --> 01:41:11,119
they just seem

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01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:13,119
and linda will tell you that she thinks

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01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:14,080
the

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01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:18,320
but i don't at all i mean i think that

2383
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,480
there are tall ones that are very far

2384
01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:22,239
from robotic

2385
01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:24,639
and i just

2386
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:27,040
and there are there are forms that i've

2387
01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:29,040
never even talked about

2388
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:31,679
that are incredibly dynamic and

2389
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:34,000
different from i've never talked about

2390
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:36,239
them because they don't appear in any of

2391
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:38,960
the literature and uh i don't want to

2392
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:41,840
talk about them because

2393
01:41:45,590 --> 01:41:44,000
you know i'd rather if people say

2394
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:45,600
they've seen this

2395
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:47,520
then i know there's something

2396
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:50,800
in that person's experience that's real

2397
01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:52,800
because i have seen things that i've

2398
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:54,400
never seen talked about let me put it

2399
01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:56,239
that way that's why i don't talk about

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01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,400
all the things i've seen

2401
01:42:03,430 --> 01:42:00,480
um

2402
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:03,440
but as to their level of physicality my

2403
01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:05,360
best guess is

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01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:08,560
that there are some here

2405
01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:10,960
who are physical

2406
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:14,159
and there are others who can be physical

2407
01:42:18,470 --> 01:42:16,480
if they wish

2408
01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:18,480
and

2409
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:20,719
there are others that

2410
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:24,000
only touch the physical world very

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01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:25,280
slightly

2412
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:28,400
and i do think that we have souls

2413
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:31,199
and that this is probably more important

2414
01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:34,000
at that level than it is at this one we

2415
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:36,080
think about the physical level

2416
01:42:40,149 --> 01:42:38,480
and that's because that's where we are

2417
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,159
when you die you will not be in this

2418
01:42:45,669 --> 01:42:42,960
level anymore and the level you are in

2419
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:45,679
it will turn out that this is

2420
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:47,920
much more fully expressed than it is

2421
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:49,760
here

2422
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:52,480
has um and i'm not being facetious i'm

2423
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:54,960
not cracking jokes

2424
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:57,360
but has a visitor ever said to you you

2425
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,400
know what i gotta go it's dinner time

2426
01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:02,400
right absolutely not

2427
01:43:09,830 --> 01:43:04,639
really absolutely not they haven't

2428
01:43:11,830 --> 01:43:09,840
raided your refrigerator or or said

2429
01:43:15,109 --> 01:43:11,840
yeah i i had a

2430
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:15,119
i had someone um you know we had a

2431
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:16,159
a very

2432
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:18,960
scary thing happen here in april

2433
01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:21,840
where someone came in i went i

2434
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:23,679
usually exercise early in the morning

2435
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:26,320
and i was not at the house

2436
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,400
and i came back and a bunch of drawers

2437
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:30,239
had been opened

2438
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:33,280
and it was really scary

2439
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:34,880
because someone had gotten in here they

2440
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:36,880
hadn't broken in they'd gotten in i

2441
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,800
called the cops and the

2442
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:40,639
policeman said well what was your door

2443
01:43:45,510 --> 01:43:43,520
locked i said well yeah they lock in the

2444
01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:45,520
door handle he said you know how long it

2445
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:47,600
would take me to open that door

2446
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,960
two seconds

2447
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:50,080
no he said

2448
01:43:54,149 --> 01:43:52,000
90 seconds at most it was actually a

2449
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:54,159
fairly high quality lock on the door

2450
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:57,040
handle 90 seconds at most

2451
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:58,480
so therefore you're

2452
01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:59,840
you don't you can't think of your door

2453
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:01,920
as having been locked it wasn't locked

2454
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:04,080
so they didn't need to break it down

2455
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:06,320
they did it just to mess with your head

2456
01:44:10,070 --> 01:44:08,960
no no no oh this went on this was just

2457
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:10,080
the beginning

2458
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:11,840
i mean let you know that they were there

2459
01:44:16,149 --> 01:44:14,080
you know here's the thing

2460
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:16,159
here's the contradictory weird thing

2461
01:44:22,229 --> 01:44:18,480
about it they let me know they

2462
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:22,239
were here they didn't take anything

2463
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:22,960
but

2464
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,040
that was on a thursday

2465
01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:29,280
the next saturday i'm sitting in a park

2466
01:44:32,830 --> 01:44:31,679
i'm enjoying my life

2467
01:44:35,109 --> 01:44:32,840
i'm with

2468
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,119
friends and suddenly something comes

2469
01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:37,119
into my head whitley you need to look at

2470
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:39,040
the website

2471
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:41,600
and i think what i you know or i'm going

2472
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:43,600
to look at the website so i open my

2473
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:45,119
phone i go into the back end of the

2474
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:46,239
website

2475
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:48,800
and just as i do that i see

2476
01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:51,600
someone trying to to come in with one of

2477
01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:54,080
the admin usernames

2478
01:44:57,590 --> 01:44:55,679
only they can't get in because they

2479
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:57,600
don't have the password and it's just

2480
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:58,719
shooting

2481
01:45:01,910 --> 01:44:59,920
you can see

2482
01:45:04,310 --> 01:45:01,920
that they're trying one password after

2483
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:04,320
another very quickly and i thought my

2484
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:06,800
god there's someone brute forcing a

2485
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:08,560
username

2486
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:10,880
so i call the webmaster and i you know

2487
01:45:15,750 --> 01:45:13,360
usernames or we don't broadcast our pat

2488
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:15,760
our admin usernames of course

2489
01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:17,920
i said so someone's brute forcing an

2490
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:20,560
admin username so we start chasing them

2491
01:45:26,470 --> 01:45:23,840
down and we have the ability to

2492
01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:26,480
to isolate someone's access we can get

2493
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:29,040
their ip address and make it impossible

2494
01:45:33,830 --> 01:45:31,360
for them to reach the website so we're

2495
01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:33,840
doing that and it's more and more coming

2496
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:36,480
and more and more admin usernames

2497
01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:38,719
so finally we pull

2498
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:41,199
he pulls all of the emitting usernames

2499
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:42,719
from the back end

2500
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:44,960
we generate new completely different

2501
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:46,480
usernames

2502
01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:48,719
and passwords on the back end so there's

2503
01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:51,280
no one typing in this into the front end

2504
01:45:56,709 --> 01:45:54,320
and the attack stops

2505
01:45:58,470 --> 01:45:56,719
then i take my laptop i go

2506
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:58,480
back to my friend's house and i open my

2507
01:46:02,310 --> 01:46:00,239
laptop

2508
01:46:05,109 --> 01:46:02,320
and i'm gonna

2509
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:05,119
look at the site with my brand new

2510
01:46:09,910 --> 01:46:08,239
username and password created from the

2511
01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:09,920
back end

2512
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:11,520
i open the

2513
01:46:14,550 --> 01:46:12,560
site

2514
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:14,560
and immediately the webmaster says

2515
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,920
whitley are you in there pulling down

2516
01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:19,440
pages

2517
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:22,239
and i say absolutely not

2518
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:23,920
and he says

2519
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:26,400
someone got in with your new username a

2520
01:46:30,149 --> 01:46:27,760
second ago

2521
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:30,159
in other words here's the real reason

2522
01:46:34,550 --> 01:46:32,560
they came into the house

2523
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:34,560
it wasn't a burglary attempt it was an

2524
01:46:40,149 --> 01:46:37,360
attempt they stole all those usernames

2525
01:46:42,709 --> 01:46:40,159
off of my computer right they didn't get

2526
01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:42,719
the passwords because they couldn't

2527
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:45,199
and then they had a key logger on the

2528
01:46:50,550 --> 01:46:47,360
computer so they could watch the

2529
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:50,560
computer when i put in the new password

2530
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:52,880
now this is not an unprofessional this

2531
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:55,040
is a professional operation it was

2532
01:47:00,950 --> 01:46:58,800
obvious at this point so i enlisted some

2533
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:00,960
professionals for advice

2534
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:03,679
and they said to me that you know you're

2535
01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:05,440
you're definitely

2536
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:06,560
being

2537
01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:09,760
someone's after you someone with a high

2538
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:12,159
skill level but not such a high skill

2539
01:47:17,270 --> 01:47:13,840
level is that they can break passwords

2540
01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:17,280
so it was not like the nsa it was

2541
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:20,239
someone else someone lower level

2542
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:23,040
um then

2543
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:25,119
i put in

2544
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:27,679
a new alarm system it's a lot you know

2545
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:30,080
this house is full of cameras

2546
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:31,520
obviously i mean because i'm always

2547
01:47:34,229 --> 01:47:32,880
hoping i'll get a picture of the

2548
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:34,239
visitors

2549
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:37,119
it's already had cameras in it but that

2550
01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:39,600
morning and only that morning

2551
01:47:44,229 --> 01:47:41,840
i had the router off because the router

2552
01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:44,239
had screwed itself up and i was getting

2553
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,119
a new router that afternoon

2554
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:49,679
so the morning they came in was the only

2555
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:52,800
time the router had been off in a year

2556
01:47:56,310 --> 01:47:54,320
maybe more

2557
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:56,320
that one morning

2558
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:58,480
so they probably did something to the

2559
01:48:02,070 --> 01:48:00,320
router from the outside which is what

2560
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:02,080
screwed it up in the first place that's

2561
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:05,040
why it was turned off uh

2562
01:48:08,629 --> 01:48:07,199
so they knew the router wouldn't be on

2563
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:08,639
and therefore the cameras wouldn't be on

2564
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:10,080
either

2565
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:11,119
and

2566
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:12,400
but then

2567
01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:14,719
now i've got two

2568
01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:16,159
different

2569
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:18,480
interlocking alarm systems put with

2570
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:20,320
different from different alarms

2571
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:22,719
different types of alarms very unusual

2572
01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:23,520
one

2573
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:28,480
much more hard

2574
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:29,600
wired

2575
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:33,360
much harder ones to get into and uh

2576
01:48:39,270 --> 01:48:35,920
i've got two of those including

2577
01:48:42,070 --> 01:48:39,280
cameras in the hallway

2578
01:48:45,910 --> 01:48:42,080
that leads up and i saw

2579
01:48:48,950 --> 01:48:45,920
a guy on one of those cameras come up

2580
01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:48,960
pretend to knock on my neighbor's door

2581
01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:50,800
and i could see that he was actually

2582
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:51,760
casing

2583
01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:53,600
what he could see of what the new stuff

2584
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:54,880
i had

2585
01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:56,080
on the

2586
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:57,520
on my doors

2587
01:49:02,229 --> 01:49:00,960
and so i sent this to a professional and

2588
01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:02,239
he said

2589
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:04,080
this man

2590
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:07,600
is either military or ex-military

2591
01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:08,480
and

2592
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:13,599
he is either a thief or worse

2593
01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:17,599
can i tell can i tell everybody

2594
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:19,040
oh yeah you know what i'm just going to

2595
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:21,119
do it willie i don't care i've seen the

2596
01:49:24,790 --> 01:49:22,320
video

2597
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:24,800
okay there you have it yeah yes yes and

2598
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:27,360
so i'm going to let everybody know

2599
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:30,719
that what whitley is saying here is not

2600
01:49:34,629 --> 01:49:33,360
only serious but it's 100

2601
01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:34,639
true

2602
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:39,040
and um when i saw the video

2603
01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:41,040
uh which i have now

2604
01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:43,920
watched it 30 or 40 times over and over

2605
01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:45,920
again it's one of the most frightening

2606
01:49:50,310 --> 01:49:48,239
things i have ever seen and and whitley

2607
01:49:53,270 --> 01:49:50,320
you're being you're leaving some of it

2608
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:53,280
out but so let me give the the third

2609
01:49:58,310 --> 01:49:54,880
party perspective

2610
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:58,320
for everybody this dude

2611
01:50:03,189 --> 01:50:00,480
fake knocks

2612
01:50:06,070 --> 01:50:03,199
on the neighbor's door

2613
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:06,080
and and he it's a fake knock it's not

2614
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:07,440
when you go up and you knock on

2615
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:09,679
somebody's door you go

2616
01:50:14,149 --> 01:50:11,360
you knock on the door that's not what

2617
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,159
this guy does he does a reverse rap and

2618
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:16,800
he goes like this

2619
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:18,159
he doesn't even knock he doesn't want

2620
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:20,719
anybody to hear his knock and he does

2621
01:50:25,750 --> 01:50:22,400
that twice

2622
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:25,760
and while he is doing that he's looking

2623
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:28,320
in whitley's camera

2624
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:30,880
right knocking on the door and this is

2625
01:50:36,470 --> 01:50:33,599
why what's with and then and then the

2626
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:36,480
the second knock whitley

2627
01:51:03,990 --> 01:50:37,199
he

2628
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:04,000
ever and i agree with your professional

2629
01:51:09,189 --> 01:51:06,400
he's military he's a little buff

2630
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:09,199
uh he's not old i'm gonna say he's

2631
01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:13,840
20 30 yeah yeah i don't think he's 30.

2632
01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:16,960
he he looks military and it's a

2633
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:19,520
that's a crazy video and it sucks that

2634
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:22,560
this is the world that we live in and um

2635
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:24,000
but you've done

2636
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:26,639
uh you've done the right things and and

2637
01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:29,840
you've installed this system and and wow

2638
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:31,119
you know and

2639
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:32,880
this is the thing whitley's been to my

2640
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:34,800
house he sees i've got

2641
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,520
friggin security man he's loaded man

2642
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:39,840
right folks don't don't try to mess with

2643
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:43,520
jimmy do not you can't but but it's that

2644
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:46,320
we live in right i've got our world

2645
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:48,320
yeah i've got you know the problem of

2646
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:50,719
course jimmy is same problem you have i

2647
01:51:57,910 --> 01:51:51,920
have

2648
01:51:59,830 --> 01:51:57,920
and it's it's basically ruined my my

2649
01:52:01,830 --> 01:51:59,840
pleasure of my life because every time i

2650
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:01,840
go out of this place i'm waiting waiting

2651
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:05,119
to be killed or kidnapped right right

2652
01:52:11,589 --> 01:52:06,960
yeah so um

2653
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:11,599
okay so oh man i'm just glad uh that

2654
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:15,199
you've got this this doofus on camera

2655
01:52:19,830 --> 01:52:18,159
and uh he's

2656
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:19,840
he's not going to come back

2657
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:22,080
and he's probably listening to this show

2658
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:24,080
and now he knows that i've freaking seen

2659
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:25,360
his face

2660
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:26,320
and

2661
01:52:30,790 --> 01:52:27,199
yeah

2662
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:30,800
show and i you know i wish i could show

2663
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:33,360
the video but

2664
01:52:37,750 --> 01:52:35,760
there could be legal problems because

2665
01:52:38,709 --> 01:52:37,760
you know it's an invasion of his privacy

2666
01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:38,719
and

2667
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:41,599
there's no crime committed or anything

2668
01:52:44,790 --> 01:52:42,480
and

2669
01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:44,800
so i can't do i can't publicize the

2670
01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:46,639
video i wish i could

2671
01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:48,880
if i see him i'm gonna punch him in his

2672
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:50,000
throat

2673
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:53,280
so uh here okay so anyway

2674
01:52:57,589 --> 01:52:55,440
back to uh the reason why we brought all

2675
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:57,599
of this up

2676
01:53:01,030 --> 01:52:58,800
uh

2677
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:01,040
you you have the cameras in your house

2678
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:03,119
and you've been hoping

2679
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:05,199
of course right i've got cameras too and

2680
01:53:09,589 --> 01:53:07,040
i would love to catch something

2681
01:53:12,070 --> 01:53:09,599
uh not a person i want to catch

2682
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:12,080
something paranormal or supernatural or

2683
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,159
e.t or alien i would love to have that

2684
01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:16,800
happen on camera uh have you have you

2685
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:18,080
come close

2686
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:20,639
well i've gotten a few things yeah uh i

2687
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:22,400
have uh

2688
01:53:26,950 --> 01:53:24,880
the best thing i got

2689
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:26,960
was um

2690
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:28,800
one of the things they do is they they

2691
01:53:33,910 --> 01:53:32,000
they like their whoever is with me

2692
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:33,920
and it could easily be my wife annie i

2693
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:36,239
mean who's with me now they're not

2694
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:37,440
threatening

2695
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,360
they're they're wonderful actually

2696
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:43,199
they work on my books with me and i've

2697
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:44,320
gotten

2698
01:53:49,669 --> 01:53:48,000
fairly good at listening to their advice

2699
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:49,679
and taking it

2700
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:51,520
and they're very good at that i mean

2701
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:55,280
that's why the new books the

2702
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,109
afterlife revolution and jesus the new

2703
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:02,880
vision and now them are

2704
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:05,440
they're an order of magnitude better

2705
01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:06,239
than

2706
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:07,679
anything i've ever written before i

2707
01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:10,480
think except communion itself

2708
01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:12,000
and now

2709
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:13,679
so

2710
01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:15,440
they're not threatening to me the ones

2711
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:17,840
that are here now

2712
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:20,239
uh and i but but they do like me to

2713
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:22,000
meditate with them at three o'clock in

2714
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:24,560
the morning for a very specific reason

2715
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:27,360
the mon it's called in in india there's

2716
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:29,520
a type of yoga where you do this every

2717
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:30,560
night

2718
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:33,040
it's called problem with a time

2719
01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:35,040
and it's the time of learning your mind

2720
01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:36,960
is most open

2721
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:37,920
so

2722
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,560
i will they will wake me up to do that

2723
01:54:44,229 --> 01:54:42,960
if i do not do it if i do not wake

2724
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:44,239
myself up

2725
01:54:48,830 --> 01:54:47,119
i purposely don't use an alarm

2726
01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:48,840
because i want this

2727
01:54:55,430 --> 01:54:52,880
engagement and one night

2728
01:54:57,990 --> 01:54:55,440
they i guess were trying to wake me up i

2729
01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:58,000
was sleeping heavily

2730
01:55:03,030 --> 01:55:00,560
and the camera

2731
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:03,040
suddenly i was waked up by a crashing

2732
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:04,639
noise

2733
01:55:09,030 --> 01:55:06,880
and i looked

2734
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:09,040
and this phone

2735
01:55:14,709 --> 01:55:11,360
had on its own

2736
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:14,719
slid off the table beside my bed and

2737
01:55:20,709 --> 01:55:18,800
that is caught on camera you can see it

2738
01:55:23,270 --> 01:55:20,719
you can see it

2739
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:23,280
and the i i could show it now but the

2740
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:25,679
problem is the video is going to be in a

2741
01:55:29,270 --> 01:55:27,520
documentary about me and they have the

2742
01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:29,280
rights to it at the moment and hopefully

2743
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:31,360
that will be out around halloween

2744
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:34,000
okay so what what do you see though can

2745
01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:35,199
you just see

2746
01:55:37,669 --> 01:55:36,480
you see

2747
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:37,679
a sort of

2748
01:55:41,270 --> 01:55:40,480
shadowy darkness like a little

2749
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,280
dark

2750
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:43,440
black kind of finger

2751
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:45,520
kind of come up behind the

2752
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:47,679
the phone and push it off the edge of

2753
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:49,280
the table

2754
01:55:54,390 --> 01:55:52,480
on its own i mean it is absolutely

2755
01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:54,400
not something that could happen it

2756
01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:57,199
didn't you know it didn't didn't just do

2757
01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:00,480
that things don't do that on their own

2758
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:03,119
do you ever um

2759
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:04,960
there's a reason why i'm asking do you

2760
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:07,360
ever get touched at night

2761
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:10,480
all the time yeah mostly the mostly the

2762
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:13,760
way they wake me up is blowing my face

2763
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:15,679
they blew and i go

2764
01:56:20,070 --> 01:56:18,320
right in my face oh that ain't right no

2765
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:20,080
that ain't

2766
01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:22,000
no i'm used to it i've been happening

2767
01:56:25,109 --> 01:56:23,360
i'll tell you when it started happening

2768
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:25,119
was after annie passed away

2769
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:26,960
and i think it's her i think that i'm en

2770
01:56:31,510 --> 01:56:29,199
engaged with my wife

2771
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:31,520
uh i i'm pretty sure i am

2772
01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:34,239
and i think you know she was a

2773
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:36,719
she was a on a very deep powerful

2774
01:56:41,510 --> 01:56:39,280
spiritual journey in this life

2775
01:56:44,229 --> 01:56:41,520
you never knew anyone like it

2776
01:56:47,350 --> 01:56:44,239
did she ever blow in your face

2777
01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:47,360
when she was alive never never okay okay

2778
01:56:53,189 --> 01:56:49,920
but this happens now and she

2779
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:53,199
she was a person who expected your best

2780
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:56,239
uh you know she wanted she if you were

2781
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:57,280
going to

2782
01:57:02,229 --> 01:57:00,239
meditate she wanted you to do that

2783
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:02,239
if you were going to

2784
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:03,760
you were going to do this spirit a

2785
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:05,440
spiritual journey

2786
01:57:09,350 --> 01:57:07,440
with annie involved

2787
01:57:11,669 --> 01:57:09,360
you were going to do it

2788
01:57:13,589 --> 01:57:11,679
and i am doing it i'm very much on this

2789
01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:13,599
journey and it has

2790
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:16,239
turned into the most extraordinary and

2791
01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:17,920
beautiful thing i've ever imagined

2792
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:19,920
possible happening to anybody

2793
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:23,119
it's my life now frankly right right but

2794
01:57:27,430 --> 01:57:24,960
blowing in the face i think i would pee

2795
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:27,440
on myself a little bit if i first time

2796
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:29,520
it happened it was exciting i mean and

2797
01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:30,960
it didn't

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01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:32,320
it wasn't

2799
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:34,960
it was at first

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01:57:41,669 --> 01:57:38,400
uh you know i think from who whoever it

2801
01:57:42,790 --> 01:57:41,679
was or whoever it was it was assumed

2802
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:42,800
that

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01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:44,639
i would be

2804
01:57:52,310 --> 01:57:46,960
moronic and hard to deal with

2805
01:57:56,790 --> 01:57:54,310
they started by

2806
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:56,800
grabbing one of my toes and shaking the

2807
01:57:59,109 --> 01:57:58,000
hell out of it in the middle of the

2808
01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:59,119
night

2809
01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:00,880
and it hurt

2810
01:58:04,790 --> 01:58:02,800
and then the next night

2811
01:58:06,629 --> 01:58:04,800
grabbed my nipple and

2812
01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:06,639
shook the hell out of it and pinched it

2813
01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:08,560
hard and i just

2814
01:58:12,310 --> 01:58:10,960
came flying out of bed

2815
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:12,320
and

2816
01:58:16,229 --> 01:58:14,480
then i realized that this sort of thing

2817
01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:16,239
had been done to me before back in the

2818
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:17,440
90s

2819
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:24,709
i

2820
01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:30,560
learned

2821
01:58:36,390 --> 01:58:34,560
way back in 1969 and i've been doing it

2822
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:36,400
ever since

2823
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:40,000
and i do it now every day with a few

2824
01:58:43,270 --> 01:58:41,360
some friends and

2825
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:43,280
during the day and i do it

2826
01:58:48,470 --> 01:58:46,080
in the evening at 11 and again at three

2827
01:58:51,030 --> 01:58:48,480
and i've been doing that now for

2828
01:58:53,750 --> 01:58:51,040
since 2015 since about

2829
01:58:56,950 --> 01:58:53,760
six weeks after annie passed away well i

2830
01:58:59,030 --> 01:58:56,960
i i i figured out

2831
01:59:01,510 --> 01:58:59,040
uh i'll i'll get this in before the

2832
01:59:03,510 --> 01:59:01,520
break so i had this

2833
01:59:04,790 --> 01:59:03,520
thing that was happening at night in in

2834
01:59:05,910 --> 01:59:04,800
my bedroom

2835
01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:05,920
and

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01:59:08,550 --> 01:59:07,040
uh

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01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:08,560
whitley i don't know if you went

2838
01:59:14,390 --> 01:59:11,280
upstairs but uh in my master bedroom my

2839
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:14,400
the master bath is off uh to my left and

2840
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:16,480
i would hear and i would didn't know

2841
01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:17,920
where it was coming from but i would

2842
01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:23,669
like descending in volume

2843
01:59:27,750 --> 01:59:25,360
like that anyway wow and that's in a

2844
01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:27,760
house this isn't it's nobody there right

2845
01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:31,360
right right okay but i figured it out

2846
01:59:36,470 --> 01:59:33,760
and now this has been going on since i

2847
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:36,480
moved in and and i would get up and walk

2848
01:59:40,870 --> 01:59:38,239
around i'm like man you know i'm

2849
01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:40,880
freaking myself out i got my flashlight

2850
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:43,520
and and i heard it like three times last

2851
01:59:47,270 --> 01:59:45,360
week

2852
01:59:50,470 --> 01:59:47,280
he's not gonna believe this

2853
01:59:51,350 --> 01:59:50,480
so i that's it i go in and i'm standing

2854
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:51,360
in

2855
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:53,920
the bathroom i've got the light on i'm

2856
01:59:59,750 --> 01:59:57,360
freaking out and i hear it

2857
02:00:01,910 --> 01:59:59,760
and i spin around it's my frigging

2858
02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:01,920
commode door

2859
02:00:06,629 --> 02:00:04,159
and the window

2860
02:00:08,470 --> 02:00:06,639
is so there's you know the the toilet is

2861
02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,480
in its own room

2862
02:00:14,149 --> 02:00:10,639
the doors closed

2863
02:00:16,310 --> 02:00:14,159
and the window was open and the wind

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02:00:17,990 --> 02:00:16,320
wind the pressure

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was making the door even though it's

2866
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closed

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02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:20,960
to lightly tap i went up and i knocked

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02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:22,960
down my door

2869
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:25,440
oh you got to be kidding me

2870
02:00:28,470 --> 02:00:26,560
so now

2871
02:00:29,589 --> 02:00:28,480
i leave the door open i haven't heard it

2872
02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:29,599
for a week

2873
02:00:32,870 --> 02:00:31,760
it was my freaking bathroom door in the

2874
02:00:35,030 --> 02:00:32,880
wind

2875
02:00:36,470 --> 02:00:35,040
but i had

2876
02:00:39,350 --> 02:00:36,480
months

2877
02:00:40,870 --> 02:00:39,360
of scaring the crap out of myself

2878
02:00:43,350 --> 02:00:40,880
yeah it can get windy out there in the

2879
02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:43,360
desert it can and that's what it was the

2880
02:00:48,310 --> 02:00:46,639
doors closed but just enough right the

2881
02:00:50,790 --> 02:00:48,320
pressure in there

2882
02:00:53,910 --> 02:00:50,800
uh to do that and

2883
02:00:55,910 --> 02:00:53,920
so there it is a problem solved case

2884
02:00:58,149 --> 02:00:55,920
close and uh

2885
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:58,159
but uh i have ghosts

2886
02:01:01,350 --> 02:00:59,199
but that

2887
02:01:03,270 --> 02:01:01,360
that that ghost has been run out of the

2888
02:01:04,950 --> 02:01:03,280
house so i figured that part out let's

2889
02:01:06,229 --> 02:01:04,960
take our break right here this is fade

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02:01:08,310 --> 02:01:06,239
to black our guest's not the one and

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02:01:11,030 --> 02:01:08,320
only whitley strieber tonight is

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02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:11,040
communion 2.0 when we come back after

2893
02:01:13,830 --> 02:01:12,639
the break i'm going to ask whitley

2894
02:01:14,950 --> 02:01:13,840
directly

2895
02:01:17,109 --> 02:01:14,960
why

2896
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:17,119
should the new generation read the book

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we'll be right back

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight whitley

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02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:04,880
streamer is with us

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great conversation and and like i always

3014
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do i just got to thank whitley for for

3015
02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:12,639
everything in your contributions to this

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02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:15,119
community and one of the things whitley

3017
02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:18,960
that i really enjoy is not only uh my

3018
02:07:24,229 --> 02:07:20,400
audience here

3019
02:07:25,189 --> 02:07:24,239
um it's again it's generational i have

3020
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a

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02:07:34,229 --> 02:07:31,440
right field

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02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:34,239
and uh but but it's great when i go to

3023
02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:36,960
conferences and i see these young faces

3024
02:07:39,910 --> 02:07:37,840
there

3025
02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:39,920
that are very intelligent and they know

3026
02:07:44,310 --> 02:07:42,000
a lot and they do a lot of research and

3027
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:44,320
reading and they ask me

3028
02:07:48,870 --> 02:07:47,119
some of the most amazing questions they

3029
02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:48,880
are engaged

3030
02:07:52,310 --> 02:07:50,800
yeah there are that's very true on my

3031
02:07:56,069 --> 02:07:52,320
website too

3032
02:07:59,030 --> 02:07:56,079
yeah and how important is it uh for

3033
02:08:00,870 --> 02:07:59,040
these uh younger generations that are

3034
02:08:01,910 --> 02:08:00,880
coming into ufology for their own

3035
02:08:04,229 --> 02:08:01,920
reasons

3036
02:08:06,790 --> 02:08:04,239
uh why is it important for them to read

3037
02:08:09,830 --> 02:08:06,800
communion

3038
02:08:14,069 --> 02:08:12,069
if this is

3039
02:08:15,910 --> 02:08:14,079
not the most important thing that's ever

3040
02:08:17,750 --> 02:08:15,920
happened to mankind i would be very

3041
02:08:19,750 --> 02:08:17,760
surprised

3042
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:19,760
right now

3043
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:22,480
it's just coming into focus

3044
02:08:26,069 --> 02:08:24,400
and it's coming into focus because so

3045
02:08:27,589 --> 02:08:26,079
many people

3046
02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:27,599
have

3047
02:08:33,589 --> 02:08:30,400
enabled it been willing to bring it into

3048
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:33,599
their lives over two generations

3049
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:36,400
and now this generation is the

3050
02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:38,400
generation for which it will come into

3051
02:08:41,510 --> 02:08:40,560
focus in some way

3052
02:08:43,350 --> 02:08:41,520
so

3053
02:08:45,830 --> 02:08:43,360
you know they are the next they are

3054
02:08:47,750 --> 02:08:45,840
literally the generation of

3055
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:47,760
the new mankind

3056
02:08:55,030 --> 02:08:53,440
and communion is where that starts

3057
02:08:57,589 --> 02:08:55,040
it starts there

3058
02:09:02,629 --> 02:08:57,599
that was the first

3059
02:09:06,229 --> 02:09:02,639
really deep coherent

3060
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,239
description of a contact experience

3061
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:08,800
that had ever been written

3062
02:09:13,589 --> 02:09:12,000
on a personal basis

3063
02:09:15,589 --> 02:09:13,599
there's never been there was never one

3064
02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:15,599
like it before

3065
02:09:19,270 --> 02:09:17,440
and it's still

3066
02:09:20,790 --> 02:09:19,280
very current

3067
02:09:23,589 --> 02:09:20,800
because you will

3068
02:09:25,589 --> 02:09:23,599
you will understand

3069
02:09:30,790 --> 02:09:25,599
the

3070
02:09:32,629 --> 02:09:30,800
of initial contact and that shock

3071
02:09:35,189 --> 02:09:32,639
if this

3072
02:09:37,750 --> 02:09:35,199
emerges into the world

3073
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:37,760
in an open way will be repeated

3074
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:39,760
millions of times

3075
02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:42,000
all over this planet

3076
02:09:45,750 --> 02:09:43,920
and the people who are prepared for it

3077
02:09:49,030 --> 02:09:45,760
will be the people who have

3078
02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:49,040
done things like educate themselves

3079
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:50,239
and

3080
02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:54,400
instead of

3081
02:09:57,270 --> 02:09:55,760
you know just

3082
02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:57,280
treading along the surface and if the

3083
02:10:01,430 --> 02:09:59,119
young people i know are

3084
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:01,440
involved in this

3085
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:03,040
are like

3086
02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:04,560
and i think they are very much like the

3087
02:10:08,629 --> 02:10:06,079
ones you're talking about

3088
02:10:10,470 --> 02:10:08,639
they will do this successfully they will

3089
02:10:13,270 --> 02:10:10,480
succeed

3090
02:10:16,629 --> 02:10:13,280
i don't think our generation could have

3091
02:10:18,470 --> 02:10:16,639
and and there are um

3092
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:18,480
there are many

3093
02:10:23,750 --> 02:10:21,040
that have uh entered into the ufo

3094
02:10:26,310 --> 02:10:23,760
community just recently in the last four

3095
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:26,320
years you know it's ttsa is timed along

3096
02:10:31,109 --> 02:10:28,800
it's yeah and

3097
02:10:33,990 --> 02:10:31,119
and and what is happening out there tic

3098
02:10:36,870 --> 02:10:34,000
tac and tick tock for instance

3099
02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:36,880
um where you go

3100
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:39,679
on to a social media platform like tic

3101
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:44,800
tac or reddit and things where you see

3102
02:10:51,270 --> 02:10:48,880
millions of views on on these videos uh

3103
02:10:52,870 --> 02:10:51,280
but it's coming from a much much much

3104
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:52,880
younger generation

3105
02:10:58,310 --> 02:10:55,199
that understands social media but they

3106
02:11:00,550 --> 02:10:58,320
don't have the foundation of this where

3107
02:11:03,109 --> 02:11:00,560
they think that the phenomenon

3108
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:03,119
is just this recent thing

3109
02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:04,239
that is

3110
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:06,480
in the media it's truly not that and

3111
02:11:11,109 --> 02:11:08,800
they do need a foundational they sure do

3112
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:11,119
and you know there's been a an amazing

3113
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:12,800
disservice i mean i just wish they could

3114
02:11:16,870 --> 02:11:14,719
do something right

3115
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:16,880
the i mean the media and the

3116
02:11:21,589 --> 02:11:18,880
government because they've made it look

3117
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:21,599
like this is just now happening

3118
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:24,400
when it's been happening for 70 years

3119
02:11:32,149 --> 02:11:26,159
at least

3120
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:32,159
that the that the intelligence community

3121
02:11:36,709 --> 02:11:34,880
come up with more historical

3122
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:36,719
information like

3123
02:11:41,350 --> 02:11:40,480
there's the there's a memo from uh

3124
02:11:42,870 --> 02:11:41,360
uh

3125
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:42,880
he was the head of the air force at the

3126
02:11:46,950 --> 02:11:46,159
time back in 1947 um

3127
02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:46,960
uh

3128
02:11:54,550 --> 02:11:48,480
raymie

3129
02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:54,560
was the higher up than him um

3130
02:11:58,069 --> 02:11:56,000
oh his name's right on the tip of my

3131
02:12:02,069 --> 02:11:58,079
tongue but anyway it's a memo from him

3132
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:02,079
and it describes in detail and it's not

3133
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:04,560
it's declassified and it's not it was

3134
02:12:09,189 --> 02:12:06,960
found by stanton friedman

3135
02:12:13,109 --> 02:12:09,199
and it's not in doubt as to its

3136
02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:14,950
and it

3137
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:17,840
details exactly the same flight

3138
02:12:23,589 --> 02:12:21,760
characteristics being observed in 1947

3139
02:12:26,149 --> 02:12:23,599
that are being observed

3140
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:26,159
right now on the tic tac video and the

3141
02:12:29,350 --> 02:12:28,400
gimbal videos and they're acting like

3142
02:12:32,149 --> 02:12:29,360
that

3143
02:12:33,589 --> 02:12:32,159
memo didn't need doesn't even exist

3144
02:12:35,189 --> 02:12:33,599
i mean the media they don't know it

3145
02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:35,199
exists

3146
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:36,880
they're just they just

3147
02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:38,480
they just spout out whatever they've

3148
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:39,840
been fed

3149
02:12:46,069 --> 02:12:43,760
and they're not being fed that

3150
02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:46,079
uh

3151
02:12:50,470 --> 02:12:49,360
and it's unfortunate

3152
02:12:52,470 --> 02:12:50,480
so

3153
02:12:54,149 --> 02:12:52,480
you know that's there i mean it's it's

3154
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:54,159
easy to find on the internet and if i

3155
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:56,400
should happen to remember the man's name

3156
02:13:00,709 --> 02:12:57,520
now

3157
02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:00,719
when i need to talk about him

3158
02:13:05,990 --> 02:13:03,360
was it the twining memo yeah the twining

3159
02:13:08,470 --> 02:13:06,000
memo that's it yeah right right right

3160
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:08,480
and it's there it's right there

3161
02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:10,960
and they they act like this all started

3162
02:13:16,149 --> 02:13:13,520
in 2004 come on i mean get a life here

3163
02:13:19,510 --> 02:13:16,159
it's ridiculous yeah i remember i asked

3164
02:13:21,030 --> 02:13:19,520
stanton i said out of out of everything

3165
02:13:21,990 --> 02:13:21,040
you know with uh

3166
02:13:23,990 --> 02:13:22,000
uh

3167
02:13:26,470 --> 02:13:24,000
all of the documents and everything that

3168
02:13:29,350 --> 02:13:26,480
that you know mj and all of this

3169
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:29,360
what what do you put your stamp on what

3170
02:13:32,709 --> 02:13:31,280
is authentic and because the twining

3171
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:32,719
memo

3172
02:13:37,510 --> 02:13:33,440
yeah

3173
02:13:40,629 --> 02:13:37,520
that is absolutely true it is authentic

3174
02:13:41,669 --> 02:13:40,639
the drawing memo is authentic meaning

3175
02:13:43,589 --> 02:13:41,679
meaning

3176
02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:43,599
that a lot of the other things probably

3177
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:46,000
are too because there certainly

3178
02:13:50,470 --> 02:13:48,880
would have been an extensive effort to

3179
02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:50,480
understand this

3180
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:52,639
it wouldn't just be

3181
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:54,800
general nathan twining

3182
02:13:59,589 --> 02:13:57,040
sending out a memo saying these objects

3183
02:14:00,390 --> 02:13:59,599
are flying around and then everyone just

3184
02:14:01,350 --> 02:14:00,400
just

3185
02:14:05,350 --> 02:14:01,360
uh

3186
02:14:07,830 --> 02:14:05,360
files that no siree

3187
02:14:09,030 --> 02:14:07,840
there was a big effort to find out

3188
02:14:09,910 --> 02:14:09,040
believe me

3189
02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:09,920
and

3190
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:13,520
the whether the effort it was

3191
02:14:19,510 --> 02:14:16,719
called majestic 12 or not i don't know

3192
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:19,520
but it was there all right in fact art

3193
02:14:25,189 --> 02:14:22,800
exon told me in 1988

3194
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:25,199
that he was still going back to write

3195
02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:27,280
pat to meetings with the scientific

3196
02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:28,159
group

3197
02:14:31,669 --> 02:14:30,079
to

3198
02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:31,679
talk about

3199
02:14:36,149 --> 02:14:34,000
what he remembered from earlier

3200
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:36,159
because some of the a lot of the records

3201
02:14:39,109 --> 02:14:36,800
were

3202
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:39,119
that was so secret that

3203
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:40,880
physical records weren't even kept it

3204
02:14:44,470 --> 02:14:42,000
was all

3205
02:14:46,310 --> 02:14:44,480
all in memory

3206
02:14:48,069 --> 02:14:46,320
and you know i asked him why it was so

3207
02:14:50,629 --> 02:14:48,079
secret and

3208
02:14:52,830 --> 02:14:50,639
he wouldn't tell me

3209
02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:52,840
do you do you believe

3210
02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:56,400
that um i mean i i understand you you

3211
02:15:01,270 --> 02:14:59,840
got 36 000 pieces of correspondence from

3212
02:15:02,390 --> 02:15:01,280
people around the world after they've

3213
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:02,400
read the book

3214
02:15:05,430 --> 02:15:04,480
but do you believe that uh

3215
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:05,440
some

3216
02:15:10,390 --> 02:15:08,560
are not aware of experiences yeah i

3217
02:15:12,950 --> 02:15:10,400
think a lot of people right and

3218
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:12,960
essentially the people who are like

3219
02:15:16,629 --> 02:15:14,800
you know there are a lot of people who

3220
02:15:18,709 --> 02:15:16,639
listen to something like this and they

3221
02:15:21,030 --> 02:15:18,719
they get very uh

3222
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:21,040
sort of get their backs up about it

3223
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:22,960
in various ways the you know they get

3224
02:15:25,589 --> 02:15:24,400
very scornful or

3225
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:25,599
you know and i think those are the

3226
02:15:28,550 --> 02:15:27,119
people who had experiences and they're

3227
02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:28,560
pushing it away they don't want to face

3228
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:30,320
it they don't want to they don't want to

3229
02:15:33,430 --> 02:15:32,079
face it and it you know it makes them

3230
02:15:35,750 --> 02:15:33,440
angry and

3231
02:15:37,589 --> 02:15:35,760
and it scares them and that that's how

3232
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,599
they react i think you can

3233
02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:39,520
all of the hidden experiences of the

3234
02:15:43,030 --> 02:15:41,360
suppressed experiencers i think most of

3235
02:15:45,750 --> 02:15:43,040
them are like that they're the people

3236
02:15:46,709 --> 02:15:45,760
who say oh he's a [\h__\h] artist or

3237
02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:46,719
whatever

3238
02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:47,760
right

3239
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:49,840
when when actually what they're doing is

3240
02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:51,280
they're saying i don't want to think

3241
02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:54,239
about what happened to me

3242
02:16:00,310 --> 02:15:56,239
totally a hundred percent

3243
02:16:03,189 --> 02:16:00,320
and is that part of the dilemma uh for

3244
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:03,199
some type of official disclosure

3245
02:16:08,229 --> 02:16:04,480
that

3246
02:16:10,310 --> 02:16:08,239
we have these incidents like roswell or

3247
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:10,320
betty barney hill travis walton rendell

3248
02:16:16,069 --> 02:16:13,040
shim there's a long list of things but

3249
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:16,079
those are individual events

3250
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:19,520
and those could tally into the tens the

3251
02:16:24,390 --> 02:16:21,360
dozens the hundreds

3252
02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:24,400
but if the experiencer stepped forward

3253
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,800
now you're dealing with millions and

3254
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:28,560
millions of people

3255
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:30,960
is that part of

3256
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:32,800
one of the reasons why disclosure is

3257
02:16:36,950 --> 02:16:34,240
difficult

3258
02:16:38,549 --> 02:16:36,960
i don't know i i think that i i have

3259
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:38,559
noticed this

3260
02:16:43,990 --> 02:16:39,679
that

3261
02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:44,000
real hesitancy

3262
02:16:48,870 --> 02:16:46,960
on the part of the people who are trying

3263
02:16:51,669 --> 02:16:48,880
to deal with the trying to

3264
02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:51,679
do the ufo level of disclosure of

3265
02:16:55,910 --> 02:16:54,000
talking about or even engaging with

3266
02:16:58,150 --> 02:16:55,920
anyone in the experience or community

3267
02:17:00,469 --> 02:16:58,160
they really don't want to do that

3268
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:00,479
because they don't want to

3269
02:17:04,629 --> 02:17:03,280
they they want this to be believable

3270
02:17:07,589 --> 02:17:04,639
to the public

3271
02:17:09,509 --> 02:17:07,599
and they think if the experiencers come

3272
02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:09,519
aboard with all their wild and crazy

3273
02:17:12,230 --> 02:17:10,960
stories it's going to make it all look

3274
02:17:13,750 --> 02:17:12,240
ridiculous

3275
02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:13,760
and they're not wrong i think that's

3276
02:17:17,190 --> 02:17:15,120
true

3277
02:17:18,870 --> 02:17:17,200
i think if you know if you sit down and

3278
02:17:21,030 --> 02:17:18,880
you tell a story about being taken

3279
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:21,040
aboard a flying saucer by little men

3280
02:17:24,870 --> 02:17:23,040
not everybody's going to say oh thank

3281
02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:24,880
god i thought you were going crazy

3282
02:17:29,910 --> 02:17:26,559
they're going to say oh [\h__\h] you are

3283
02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:29,920
going crazy yeah and and and here's the

3284
02:17:32,870 --> 02:17:31,120
thing

3285
02:17:35,669 --> 02:17:32,880
if um

3286
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:35,679
it's a technology we don't uh

3287
02:17:39,190 --> 02:17:37,840
have the capability of understanding

3288
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:39,200
right now we

3289
02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:42,000
we can fantasize and have theories and

3290
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:43,439
write all the science fiction in the

3291
02:17:47,270 --> 02:17:45,280
world but the true

3292
02:17:49,990 --> 02:17:47,280
technology here is something that it

3293
02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:50,000
would be beyond our grasp i understand

3294
02:17:54,549 --> 02:17:53,040
that but when we talk about

3295
02:17:55,349 --> 02:17:54,559
uh

3296
02:17:59,589 --> 02:17:55,359
the

3297
02:18:02,230 --> 02:17:59,599
uh to capture to video

3298
02:18:05,589 --> 02:18:02,240
um any of this phenomena whether it's

3299
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:05,599
ghosts or time travelers or et

3300
02:18:10,549 --> 02:18:07,679
we could all be talking about something

3301
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:10,559
that is that is connected right now you

3302
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:13,120
know there's lots of lots of video of

3303
02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:15,679
ghosts that's that's

3304
02:18:20,309 --> 02:18:16,559
that's

3305
02:18:21,910 --> 02:18:20,319
but it's three it it it's it's um it's

3306
02:18:30,629 --> 02:18:21,920
it's not we're

3307
02:18:37,110 --> 02:18:32,790
the interesting thing is this

3308
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:37,120
there is no video whatsoever

3309
02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:38,880
of

3310
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:42,639
a close encounter in the public space

3311
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:46,160
i do know of two things

3312
02:18:51,429 --> 02:18:48,399
one of them is a piece of

3313
02:18:53,910 --> 02:18:51,439
a a photograph i was shown

3314
02:18:57,589 --> 02:18:53,920
way back in the 80s

3315
02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:57,599
by a couple of guys of air force guys

3316
02:19:02,070 --> 02:19:00,319
and it showed it was

3317
02:19:04,790 --> 02:19:02,080
taken in a neighborhood it looked like a

3318
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:04,800
regular suburban neighborhood somewhere

3319
02:19:08,950 --> 02:19:06,639
and there was uh some houses you could

3320
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:08,960
see some regular houses

3321
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:11,200
and then there was a tree on the side of

3322
02:19:15,429 --> 02:19:13,040
the road and

3323
02:19:17,509 --> 02:19:15,439
by the sidewalk a pretty big tree and

3324
02:19:20,070 --> 02:19:17,519
there were three or four of these very

3325
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:20,080
graceful little grays with the big head

3326
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:21,920
standing under the tree

3327
02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:25,120
and a very bright light coming down from

3328
02:19:29,270 --> 02:19:27,439
above that was so bright that the leaves

3329
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:29,280
on the top of the tree were

3330
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:30,639
whited out

3331
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:32,479
and it was this was before digital

3332
02:19:37,669 --> 02:19:35,359
photography this was like a kodak camera

3333
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:37,679
and i said could i keep this

3334
02:19:40,150 --> 02:19:39,359
and he said no

3335
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:40,160
he

3336
02:19:45,990 --> 02:19:44,080
it was in dayton that i saw this

3337
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:46,000
i said no you you can't keep it really

3338
02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:47,599
but we just want you to know you're on

3339
02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:49,680
the right track

3340
02:19:54,469 --> 02:19:51,280
and they left

3341
02:19:57,190 --> 02:19:54,479
so that exists and how much more exists

3342
02:20:00,950 --> 02:19:57,200
behind the scenes i don't know but

3343
02:20:04,309 --> 02:20:00,960
there's probably a lot

3344
02:20:09,670 --> 02:20:07,110
it could be a great deal more

3345
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:09,680
in fact and it probably is there's

3346
02:20:13,270 --> 02:20:11,840
probably there are bodies and who's to

3347
02:20:15,910 --> 02:20:13,280
know whether or not there is some kind

3348
02:20:17,670 --> 02:20:15,920
of active interface with the visitors we

3349
02:20:20,230 --> 02:20:17,680
just don't know how deep this goes or

3350
02:20:23,190 --> 02:20:20,240
how extensive it is it could be very

3351
02:20:26,309 --> 02:20:23,200
deep and very extensive

3352
02:20:27,990 --> 02:20:26,319
but that that photograph exists

3353
02:20:31,030 --> 02:20:28,000
somewhere

3354
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:31,040
it exists

3355
02:20:34,950 --> 02:20:32,800
and it's as i say they said it was

3356
02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:34,960
classified i couldn't couldn't keep it i

3357
02:20:38,870 --> 02:20:36,240
did now

3358
02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:38,880
uh what was your spidey sense uh when

3359
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:41,120
you saw this photograph especially back

3360
02:20:46,230 --> 02:20:44,080
then because it's film it's a print what

3361
02:20:47,670 --> 02:20:46,240
was your spidey sense what did you think

3362
02:20:49,750 --> 02:20:47,680
you were looking at

3363
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:49,760
i i thought i was looking at what what

3364
02:20:53,429 --> 02:20:51,520
what was there it looked like they were

3365
02:20:55,510 --> 02:20:53,439
very graceful looking

3366
02:20:56,870 --> 02:20:55,520
these little beings were very graceful

3367
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:56,880
looking and they were standing under

3368
02:21:00,870 --> 02:21:00,000
this tree and it was just a photograph

3369
02:21:03,030 --> 02:21:00,880
and i

3370
02:21:04,630 --> 02:21:03,040
i i would guess that somebody out

3371
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:04,640
walking

3372
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:07,120
came upon them and took the photograph

3373
02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:08,640
and uh

3374
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:11,200
in focus was it clear

3375
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:14,240
perfectly clear wow it was clear there

3376
02:21:18,070 --> 02:21:16,080
was a lot of light coming down from

3377
02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:18,080
above which is why the photograph worked

3378
02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:19,760
in the first place

3379
02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:21,280
um

3380
02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:24,080
and uh it was perfectly clear it was a

3381
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:25,600
it was a

3382
02:21:28,309 --> 02:21:26,399
color

3383
02:21:30,710 --> 02:21:28,319
kodak photo like they used to have in

3384
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:30,720
those days oh it's color i was picturing

3385
02:21:33,670 --> 02:21:32,560
black and white oh no absolutely not it

3386
02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:33,680
was a colorful

3387
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:35,840
holy crap yeah

3388
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:37,840
and it you see that's one thing but

3389
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:40,080
there must be thousands of them hidden

3390
02:21:43,190 --> 02:21:41,840
away somewhere

3391
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:43,200
you know i think they've made an

3392
02:21:47,590 --> 02:21:45,520
enormous effort and

3393
02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:47,600
i think

3394
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:50,000
that the reasoning as i said earlier

3395
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:53,040
implied earlier i think that whatever is

3396
02:21:57,110 --> 02:21:54,560
behind this

3397
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:57,120
however complex and contradictory it may

3398
02:22:00,389 --> 02:21:57,920
be

3399
02:22:02,469 --> 02:22:00,399
it calls the shots

3400
02:22:03,750 --> 02:22:02,479
i don't think i think that they did

3401
02:22:06,950 --> 02:22:03,760
things here

3402
02:22:09,190 --> 02:22:06,960
to make certain that our official world

3403
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:09,200
would not reveal it

3404
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:11,920
and could not dare to reveal it

3405
02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:13,359
and here's another thing that's

3406
02:22:18,230 --> 02:22:15,040
fascinating

3407
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:18,240
this is really as far as its

3408
02:22:20,870 --> 02:22:20,000
people are concerned

3409
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:20,880
it's

3410
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:23,840
very concentrated on

3411
02:22:27,270 --> 02:22:25,359
three countries

3412
02:22:29,750 --> 02:22:27,280
the united states

3413
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:29,760
australia and canada

3414
02:22:34,630 --> 02:22:32,240
you do not get abduction reports from

3415
02:22:36,710 --> 02:22:34,640
many other places a few from france and

3416
02:22:38,950 --> 02:22:36,720
italy

3417
02:22:41,110 --> 02:22:38,960
brazil in brazil now i take it back a

3418
02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:41,120
lot from brazil it's true a lot from

3419
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:43,600
brazil right and so

3420
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,240
but the concentration is very definitely

3421
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:48,720
in these countries and also the what's

3422
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:51,040
happened in brazil is mostly real really

3423
02:22:55,990 --> 02:22:52,800
scary and violent

3424
02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:56,000
and um that's it's a terrible much a

3425
02:22:58,230 --> 02:22:57,520
mixed bag

3426
02:23:02,710 --> 02:22:58,240
in

3427
02:23:05,030 --> 02:23:02,720
ranges from

3428
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:05,040
very spiritual experiences to really

3429
02:23:10,389 --> 02:23:07,840
terrifying experiences or in

3430
02:23:11,349 --> 02:23:10,399
cases like people like me who stay with

3431
02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:11,359
it

3432
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:13,600
and you know i i once i realized they

3433
02:23:16,710 --> 02:23:14,720
were real

3434
02:23:18,469 --> 02:23:16,720
i was no way i was letting this go it

3435
02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:18,479
was scary and dangerous and i was

3436
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:21,120
furious at him all of that was true

3437
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,120
but i was started going out in the woods

3438
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:25,120
in the middle of the night on my own

3439
02:23:30,309 --> 02:23:27,840
to let them know that yeah i'm i'm here

3440
02:23:32,710 --> 02:23:30,319
and i definitely want to know to

3441
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:32,720
understand this and no more it was the

3442
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:35,359
scariest thing i ever did in my life

3443
02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:37,040
let me ask you this back and they came

3444
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:39,040
back into my life and they're still here

3445
02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:41,280
let me ask you this before i let you go

3446
02:23:44,870 --> 02:23:42,960
um

3447
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:44,880
have uh

3448
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:46,960
uh have you

3449
02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:48,479
been

3450
02:23:52,790 --> 02:23:51,439
contacted by the government

3451
02:23:58,309 --> 02:23:52,800
and

3452
02:24:01,590 --> 02:23:58,319
what do what should i be very frank with

3453
02:24:03,830 --> 02:24:01,600
you say cia officer became very friendly

3454
02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:03,840
with us a very sweet man

3455
02:24:07,030 --> 02:24:05,760
and spent a great deal of time with us

3456
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:07,040
at the cabin

3457
02:24:10,550 --> 02:24:09,280
uh he never encountered the visitors

3458
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:10,560
there but

3459
02:24:16,389 --> 02:24:14,479
he interviewed both of us extensively

3460
02:24:18,950 --> 02:24:16,399
for years

3461
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:18,960
and uh i've been very involved with the

3462
02:24:24,630 --> 02:24:23,429
yes

3463
02:24:27,670 --> 02:24:24,640
and and i

3464
02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:27,680
they asked me not to talk about

3465
02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:30,640
it in any a lot of detail and i don't

3466
02:24:35,110 --> 02:24:33,280
but since you ask i can say yeah sure

3467
02:24:37,030 --> 02:24:35,120
and why wouldn't i be

3468
02:24:38,389 --> 02:24:37,040
they know perfectly well this is real

3469
02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:38,399
and it's happening of course i'm

3470
02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:40,319
involved with them but i'm not keeping

3471
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:42,000
any of their secrets i've never been

3472
02:24:46,710 --> 02:24:44,399
told any secrets by them i'm not an

3473
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:46,720
insider i am

3474
02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:49,439
they ask me questions i do not get

3475
02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:52,240
answers back and i don't ask for them

3476
02:24:59,030 --> 02:24:55,760
the questions that that are asked um

3477
02:25:01,750 --> 02:24:59,040
you're a smart guy right and and and

3478
02:25:05,750 --> 02:25:01,760
um they know what they're

3479
02:25:07,990 --> 02:25:05,760
searching for yeah they do

3480
02:25:10,469 --> 02:25:08,000
and the questions are just that they're

3481
02:25:11,830 --> 02:25:10,479
very searching questions and

3482
02:25:13,510 --> 02:25:11,840
uh

3483
02:25:15,429 --> 02:25:13,520
over the years

3484
02:25:17,190 --> 02:25:15,439
i haven't i haven't

3485
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:17,200
been in contact with any of those people

3486
02:25:21,270 --> 02:25:18,240
too much

3487
02:25:22,309 --> 02:25:21,280
but in the past year or two but

3488
02:25:29,030 --> 02:25:22,319
the

3489
02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:29,040
spiritual

3490
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:32,160
and how do we

3491
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:33,760
have

3492
02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:36,240
a an experience that's

3493
02:25:41,270 --> 02:25:39,040
valuable and worthwhile to us

3494
02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:41,280
on a spiritual level

3495
02:25:44,870 --> 02:25:43,840
because this is happening on that level

3496
02:25:47,990 --> 02:25:44,880
also

3497
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:48,000
and i discovered over my life

3498
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:50,640
that i could change the nature

3499
02:25:56,309 --> 02:25:53,680
of my relationship with this presence

3500
02:25:59,190 --> 02:25:56,319
by the way i lived

3501
02:26:01,270 --> 02:25:59,200
that's why i wrote jesus a new vision to

3502
02:26:02,710 --> 02:26:01,280
lay out

3503
02:26:04,550 --> 02:26:02,720
his method

3504
02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:04,560
of living a good life which is a

3505
02:26:08,389 --> 02:26:07,200
fabulously intelligent brilliant method

3506
02:26:10,309 --> 02:26:08,399
of doing this

3507
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:10,319
for people who are not

3508
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:12,960
christians and not necessarily secular i

3509
02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:15,040
i mean not christians

3510
02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:16,720
but are secular

3511
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:19,200
uh and it's it's a book that would it's

3512
02:26:23,190 --> 02:26:21,120
useful to christians too

3513
02:26:25,190 --> 02:26:23,200
but it does not you do not have to be a

3514
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:25,200
believer of any kind

3515
02:26:30,309 --> 02:26:27,600
or you can be any kind of believer to

3516
02:26:32,950 --> 02:26:30,319
get the to get the value of the book

3517
02:26:35,429 --> 02:26:32,960
that's how it's designed

3518
02:26:37,510 --> 02:26:35,439
with um with uh

3519
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:37,520
the government or agency it doesn't

3520
02:26:41,990 --> 02:26:38,399
matter

3521
02:26:44,790 --> 02:26:42,000
uh is do they have a religious

3522
02:26:46,790 --> 02:26:44,800
side of the questions definitely

3523
02:26:48,550 --> 02:26:46,800
a lot of people in the in

3524
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:48,560
involved in this are

3525
02:26:53,510 --> 02:26:51,120
quite religious and interestingly enough

3526
02:26:56,230 --> 02:26:53,520
uh there are others involved in it who

3527
02:26:58,150 --> 02:26:56,240
are just not at all religious

3528
02:26:59,750 --> 02:26:58,160
you know who have nothing don't want

3529
02:27:00,550 --> 02:26:59,760
anything to do with the spiritual side

3530
02:27:03,590 --> 02:27:00,560
of it

3531
02:27:05,590 --> 02:27:03,600
and uh they are uh

3532
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:05,600
and but it's not when i say religious

3533
02:27:10,469 --> 02:27:08,080
i'm not talking about belief

3534
02:27:13,429 --> 02:27:10,479
and this is very important to understand

3535
02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:13,439
it's not about belief it's about

3536
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:15,120
understanding

3537
02:27:20,070 --> 02:27:18,560
the motivations behind

3538
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:20,080
moral life

3539
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:21,439
basically

3540
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:23,600
and and how that has to do

3541
02:27:27,429 --> 02:27:25,920
how that affects the soul you don't have

3542
02:27:28,309 --> 02:27:27,439
to believe in

3543
02:27:29,510 --> 02:27:28,319
in

3544
02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:29,520
allah or

3545
02:27:35,190 --> 02:27:31,920
god or any of that

3546
02:27:37,110 --> 02:27:35,200
that's not what it's really about

3547
02:27:38,309 --> 02:27:37,120
uh it's about

3548
02:27:40,630 --> 02:27:38,319
it's about

3549
02:27:42,950 --> 02:27:40,640
how these moral precepts

3550
02:27:47,110 --> 02:27:42,960
actually work in a human life to make

3551
02:27:49,270 --> 02:27:47,120
that life more real more true and more

3552
02:27:50,630 --> 02:27:49,280
valuable to the individual and everyone

3553
02:27:53,349 --> 02:27:50,640
around them

3554
02:27:55,190 --> 02:27:53,359
and when you start to live that way

3555
02:27:56,550 --> 02:27:55,200
your relationship with the visitors

3556
02:27:59,190 --> 02:27:56,560
changes

3557
02:28:02,950 --> 02:27:59,200
and they cease to be so violent they

3558
02:28:06,550 --> 02:28:02,960
cease to be so demanding and they become

3559
02:28:08,230 --> 02:28:06,560
much more teacherly and supportive

3560
02:28:10,630 --> 02:28:08,240
are are you

3561
02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:10,640
i well let me

3562
02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:13,840
let me answer this my own question first

3563
02:28:20,710 --> 02:28:17,359
i expect uh something pretty spectacular

3564
02:28:23,429 --> 02:28:20,720
from the james webb uh space telescope

3565
02:28:24,790 --> 02:28:23,439
and i think it's gonna happen sooner

3566
02:28:25,670 --> 02:28:24,800
than later

3567
02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:25,680
um

3568
02:28:30,950 --> 02:28:28,240
would you be surprised if

3569
02:28:33,190 --> 02:28:30,960
if signs of of life they're already

3570
02:28:36,070 --> 02:28:33,200
looking at a planet right now that's got

3571
02:28:39,990 --> 02:28:36,080
an atmosphere right water

3572
02:28:41,190 --> 02:28:40,000
um and and the other components for life

3573
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:41,200
carbon

3574
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:48,640
uh signs of bio uh a biosphere

3575
02:28:53,830 --> 02:28:51,840
um would it would it surprise you if

3576
02:28:58,309 --> 02:28:53,840
that kind of confirmation comes from

3577
02:28:59,750 --> 02:28:58,319
james webb and not from another source

3578
02:29:03,670 --> 02:28:59,760
well one thing i learned from the

3579
02:29:06,710 --> 02:29:03,680
visitors a long time ago is that

3580
02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:06,720
we have to find them

3581
02:29:10,790 --> 02:29:09,760
and i hope that the webb telescope and

3582
02:29:12,950 --> 02:29:10,800
the

3583
02:29:14,870 --> 02:29:12,960
gigantic radio telescope that's being

3584
02:29:15,910 --> 02:29:14,880
built in china

3585
02:29:18,710 --> 02:29:15,920
will

3586
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:18,720
collectively find the presence of this

3587
02:29:23,270 --> 02:29:19,680
other

3588
02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:23,280
let me ask you this

3589
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:25,840
why if there are so many of these alien

3590
02:29:29,750 --> 02:29:27,439
species floating around here don't we

3591
02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:29,760
get any ra pick up any radio signals or

3592
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:32,080
anything well you sorry i can answer the

3593
02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:33,760
question

3594
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:35,920
they use quantum level communications

3595
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:38,160
and we are learning how to do that right

3596
02:29:43,510 --> 02:29:41,520
now i can tell you for sure and this is

3597
02:29:44,790 --> 02:29:43,520
not because i have secret knowledge just

3598
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:44,800
because

3599
02:29:50,469 --> 02:29:47,920
i know how things work and i read i read

3600
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:50,479
patents which is a very useful way

3601
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:52,800
of figuring out what is going on behind

3602
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:53,920
the scenes

3603
02:29:57,990 --> 02:29:56,800
we are working very hard

3604
02:29:59,670 --> 02:29:58,000
to

3605
02:30:02,950 --> 02:29:59,680
create

3606
02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:02,960
viable quantum communications devices

3607
02:30:05,990 --> 02:30:04,560
which would mean

3608
02:30:08,469 --> 02:30:06,000
that you would be able to have

3609
02:30:09,750 --> 02:30:08,479
instantaneous communication

3610
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:09,760
across

3611
02:30:14,469 --> 02:30:12,960
any distance at all

3612
02:30:16,710 --> 02:30:14,479
meaning

3613
02:30:19,670 --> 02:30:16,720
that the our visitors could be

3614
02:30:20,790 --> 02:30:19,680
communicating with themselves with

3615
02:30:22,790 --> 02:30:20,800
others

3616
02:30:24,550 --> 02:30:22,800
that are literally on the other side not

3617
02:30:26,710 --> 02:30:24,560
just of a galaxy

3618
02:30:28,630 --> 02:30:26,720
but of the universe right yeah an

3619
02:30:30,950 --> 02:30:28,640
entanglement

3620
02:30:33,590 --> 02:30:30,960
and if the if the

3621
02:30:35,510 --> 02:30:33,600
warp drive systems that nasa is now

3622
02:30:38,150 --> 02:30:35,520
seriously working on

3623
02:30:40,870 --> 02:30:38,160
why are they working on it my guess is

3624
02:30:43,750 --> 02:30:40,880
because they know they are real

3625
02:30:47,110 --> 02:30:43,760
and people think of they say alien bases

3626
02:30:49,190 --> 02:30:47,120
under the sea it's not a base

3627
02:30:51,429 --> 02:30:49,200
it's a place where you walk through a

3628
02:30:53,510 --> 02:30:51,439
door

3629
02:30:55,990 --> 02:30:53,520
into another world

3630
02:30:58,150 --> 02:30:56,000
millions of light years from here

3631
02:31:00,150 --> 02:30:58,160
in a single step

3632
02:31:02,950 --> 02:31:00,160
that's what's there and that's what's

3633
02:31:06,790 --> 02:31:02,960
guarded so carefully

3634
02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:06,800
uh china two weeks ago whitley uh did an

3635
02:31:12,150 --> 02:31:09,760
official press release through their own

3636
02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:12,160
state newspaper

3637
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:13,040
okay

3638
02:31:18,070 --> 02:31:16,000
saying that that radio telescope that

3639
02:31:19,990 --> 02:31:18,080
you're talking about it's 500 meters

3640
02:31:23,830 --> 02:31:20,000
it's a ginormous

3641
02:31:26,070 --> 02:31:23,840
absolutely huge absolutely huge uh

3642
02:31:28,469 --> 02:31:26,080
picked up two

3643
02:31:31,429 --> 02:31:28,479
and their words

3644
02:31:34,070 --> 02:31:31,439
alien communications yeah and then they

3645
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:34,080
they they walked that back though they

3646
02:31:38,950 --> 02:31:36,560
they deleted it they didn't walk it back

3647
02:31:40,389 --> 02:31:38,960
they just took it down

3648
02:31:42,550 --> 02:31:40,399
well that would mean to me that the

3649
02:31:44,230 --> 02:31:42,560
visitors are into them too and they're

3650
02:31:45,190 --> 02:31:44,240
saying don't do this

3651
02:31:48,550 --> 02:31:45,200
yeah

3652
02:31:50,469 --> 02:31:48,560
you know when is it over folks i'm

3653
02:31:52,469 --> 02:31:50,479
talking to the visitors now when do we

3654
02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:52,479
get to know because we're running out of

3655
02:31:56,230 --> 02:31:53,680
time here

3656
02:31:57,750 --> 02:31:56,240
we need this to get into focus and we

3657
02:31:59,990 --> 02:31:57,760
need it now

3658
02:32:01,030 --> 02:32:00,000
i think it's tangible

3659
02:32:03,110 --> 02:32:01,040
i think

3660
02:32:05,590 --> 02:32:03,120
there's something going on right now

3661
02:32:09,110 --> 02:32:05,600
whitley you can feel it and it's about

3662
02:32:12,150 --> 02:32:09,120
to uh it's about to happen my if i had

3663
02:32:14,070 --> 02:32:12,160
uh if i was gonna make a bet if i was

3664
02:32:17,270 --> 02:32:14,080
going to vegas and

3665
02:32:18,870 --> 02:32:17,280
and was gonna put my money down on this

3666
02:32:19,990 --> 02:32:18,880
i would say that the governments of the

3667
02:32:22,790 --> 02:32:20,000
world

3668
02:32:25,670 --> 02:32:22,800
uh know that something is not in their

3669
02:32:28,150 --> 02:32:25,680
control i don't know if it's you know a

3670
02:32:30,150 --> 02:32:28,160
mother ship above los angeles i don't

3671
02:32:31,990 --> 02:32:30,160
know if it's that i don't know if

3672
02:32:34,150 --> 02:32:32,000
there's another reveal i don't know if

3673
02:32:35,590 --> 02:32:34,160
there's radio transmissions come i don't

3674
02:32:36,950 --> 02:32:35,600
know what it is

3675
02:32:38,790 --> 02:32:36,960
but i think that they're trying to get

3676
02:32:40,150 --> 02:32:38,800
out in front of it right now

3677
02:32:41,990 --> 02:32:40,160
and they you know i think that it's

3678
02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:42,000
going to reach a point of critical mass

3679
02:32:47,270 --> 02:32:44,399
i i suspect that it's going to knock

3680
02:32:49,110 --> 02:32:47,280
along like it is now gradually

3681
02:32:50,710 --> 02:32:49,120
gradually gradually and then all of a

3682
02:32:52,150 --> 02:32:50,720
sudden uh

3683
02:32:53,670 --> 02:32:52,160
the world's just gonna change

3684
02:32:55,590 --> 02:32:53,680
dramatically

3685
02:32:57,110 --> 02:32:55,600
uh that there's it's gonna be a shock

3686
02:32:59,670 --> 02:32:57,120
effect

3687
02:33:01,190 --> 02:32:59,680
uh and i hope it happens soon because uh

3688
02:33:03,110 --> 02:33:01,200
if it doesn't we're gonna be too busy

3689
02:33:05,429 --> 02:33:03,120
trying to save ourselves from

3690
02:33:08,230 --> 02:33:05,439
climate change to worry about any aliens

3691
02:33:10,710 --> 02:33:08,240
i can tell you that for sure

3692
02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:10,720
well you could write super storm part

3693
02:33:16,630 --> 02:33:14,319
two so oh boy yeah

3694
02:33:19,990 --> 02:33:16,640
whitley thank you so much my friend what

3695
02:33:20,710 --> 02:33:20,000
a great conversation and uh again thank

3696
02:33:23,429 --> 02:33:20,720
you

3697
02:33:25,429 --> 02:33:23,439
we put up the notes uh to

3698
02:33:27,349 --> 02:33:25,439
to everything not only

3699
02:33:29,030 --> 02:33:27,359
room but throughout get the get the

3700
02:33:30,710 --> 02:33:29,040
audio book if you like to listen to him

3701
02:33:32,870 --> 02:33:30,720
because there's a lot of

3702
02:33:35,990 --> 02:33:32,880
my spirit in that voice and you know you

3703
02:33:41,429 --> 02:33:38,389
beautiful and extraordinary

3704
02:33:43,270 --> 02:33:41,439
scary and wonderful experience with me

3705
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:43,280
thank you so much whitley behave and be

3706
02:33:48,309 --> 02:33:45,920
well go meditate say hi to the visitors

3707
02:33:50,150 --> 02:33:48,319
for me i will do it and i'll talk to you

3708
02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:50,160
tomorrow thank you so much whitley good

3709
02:33:55,429 --> 02:33:52,720
night jimmy you're the best whitley

3710
02:33:57,110 --> 02:33:55,439
strieber and again uh we put the links

3711
02:33:58,469 --> 02:33:57,120
up throughout social media it's over on

3712
02:33:59,429 --> 02:33:58,479
our website

3713
02:34:01,990 --> 02:33:59,439
um

3714
02:34:04,469 --> 02:34:02,000
and it's in the chat room it's over on

3715
02:34:06,230 --> 02:34:04,479
twitter it's it's it's everywhere go and

3716
02:34:08,950 --> 02:34:06,240
get the book this is it the new

3717
02:34:11,910 --> 02:34:08,960
re-release of communion mine is

3718
02:34:14,389 --> 02:34:11,920
autographed but go and get it with uh

3719
02:34:17,670 --> 02:34:14,399
the new cover and a new forward

3720
02:34:19,670 --> 02:34:17,680
and it is out now this is faded black i

3721
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:19,680
am your host jimmy church i'll be right

3722
02:34:23,270 --> 02:34:21,520
back and i'll uh

3723
02:34:25,429 --> 02:34:23,280
start taking some of your phone calls we

3724
02:34:29,190 --> 02:34:25,439
don't have fader night this week

3725
02:34:30,710 --> 02:34:29,200
so let's do a mini fader night right now

3726
02:34:35,270 --> 02:34:30,720
i'll be right back after this short

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break this is fade to black stay with us

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02:40:09,670 --> 02:40:08,550
all right welcome back fade to black i

3825
02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:09,680
am your host jimmy church i want to

3826
02:40:13,670 --> 02:40:11,680
thank whitley strieber

3827
02:40:15,269 --> 02:40:13,680
what an amazing conversation he's the

3828
02:40:17,830 --> 02:40:15,279
best man

3829
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:17,840
whitley is the absolute best and

3830
02:40:22,389 --> 02:40:20,560
uh just visit uh streamer.com or

3831
02:40:25,269 --> 02:40:22,399
unknowncountry.com

3832
02:40:27,830 --> 02:40:25,279
head over there uh amazon you can get

3833
02:40:31,269 --> 02:40:27,840
the book there you can get it on kindle

3834
02:40:33,590 --> 02:40:31,279
uh the new edition of communion which

3835
02:40:36,469 --> 02:40:33,600
he got the rights back to and i think

3836
02:40:39,429 --> 02:40:36,479
that is absolutely incredible uh it's

3837
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:39,439
got a new forward it's got a new cover

3838
02:40:44,230 --> 02:40:42,160
and there you go there it is uh right

3839
02:40:46,150 --> 02:40:44,240
there i remember oh i've opened up the

3840
02:40:48,389 --> 02:40:46,160
phone lines uh

3841
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:48,399
uh for everybody we'll do a little mini

3842
02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:50,000
fader night here

3843
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:53,040
um man i love this book so much uh eight

3844
02:40:58,309 --> 02:40:55,760
one eight nine two one six nine two nine

3845
02:41:00,150 --> 02:40:58,319
or three two three two seven five nine

3846
02:41:03,590 --> 02:41:00,160
six nine five

3847
02:41:05,510 --> 02:41:03,600
um i'll never forget uh when when i

3848
02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:05,520
first got the book

3849
02:41:10,950 --> 02:41:08,560
um in the late 80s

3850
02:41:11,990 --> 02:41:10,960
and uh and i was doing a ton of research

3851
02:41:16,309 --> 02:41:12,000
back then

3852
02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:16,319
and not only uh you know communion uh

3853
02:41:20,710 --> 02:41:18,160
was released and there was such a huge

3854
02:41:24,790 --> 02:41:20,720
uh buzz behind the book and

3855
02:41:26,550 --> 02:41:24,800
and i i got a copy of it hard hardcover

3856
02:41:29,510 --> 02:41:26,560
uh from a friend of mine that had just

3857
02:41:32,469 --> 02:41:29,520
finished it so i get the book and it's

3858
02:41:33,510 --> 02:41:32,479
in my bedroom in pasadena and i started

3859
02:41:34,389 --> 02:41:33,520
reading it

3860
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:34,399
and

3861
02:41:39,510 --> 02:41:36,880
this is the deal i mean it affected me

3862
02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:39,520
deeply but uh

3863
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:41,920
i had it on my nightstand

3864
02:41:46,790 --> 02:41:44,000
um in my bedroom and when you walked in

3865
02:41:49,990 --> 02:41:46,800
my bedroom my bed was uh to the right

3866
02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:50,000
and and the nightstand was there i swear

3867
02:41:55,590 --> 02:41:52,880
the eyes the cover of the book

3868
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:55,600
right and it would

3869
02:42:01,110 --> 02:41:59,040
i had to flip the book over

3870
02:42:02,790 --> 02:42:01,120
i had to turn it over

3871
02:42:04,150 --> 02:42:02,800
i'm not kidding

3872
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:04,160
and so

3873
02:42:07,349 --> 02:42:04,960
uh

3874
02:42:08,389 --> 02:42:07,359
as as years pass i remember telling

3875
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:08,399
other

3876
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:12,960
turn over the book they were like me too

3877
02:42:15,110 --> 02:42:14,240
i was like oh i thought it was the only

3878
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:15,120
one

3879
02:42:19,429 --> 02:42:17,920
but uh just uh it's a tremendous read

3880
02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:19,439
and right now

3881
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:23,359
um it's on audio it's a audio book and

3882
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:24,880
and i've been

3883
02:42:29,190 --> 02:42:26,960
doing that too as well

3884
02:42:33,030 --> 02:42:29,200
and it's so cool

3885
02:42:35,510 --> 02:42:33,040
to have uh whitley read you the book in

3886
02:42:37,510 --> 02:42:35,520
in his own voice i already read the book

3887
02:42:39,190 --> 02:42:37,520
in his his voice but

3888
02:42:41,990 --> 02:42:39,200
get the audiobook

3889
02:42:43,830 --> 02:42:42,000
it's it's absolutely incredible okay

3890
02:42:45,830 --> 02:42:43,840
phone lines are open

3891
02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:45,840
eight one eight nine two one six nine

3892
02:42:49,190 --> 02:42:48,240
two nine or three two three two seven

3893
02:42:55,190 --> 02:42:49,200
five

3894
02:42:57,349 --> 02:42:55,200
um i had uh talked about my own opening

3895
02:42:59,590 --> 02:42:57,359
rant adrian valera

3896
02:43:02,710 --> 02:42:59,600
came over on saturday night

3897
02:43:05,670 --> 02:43:02,720
and i have uh night vision i have

3898
02:43:06,710 --> 02:43:05,680
binoculars and i have a telescope and

3899
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:06,720
and stuff

3900
02:43:12,710 --> 02:43:11,200
and and i have an amazing uh backyard

3901
02:43:15,429 --> 02:43:12,720
with the night sky

3902
02:43:17,510 --> 02:43:15,439
and i've been going out there um every

3903
02:43:18,790 --> 02:43:17,520
night almost every well i'm out there

3904
02:43:20,870 --> 02:43:18,800
every night

3905
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:20,880
uh but uh

3906
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:22,960
some nights i go out and i take out the

3907
02:43:29,190 --> 02:43:25,120
night vision i've had many guests come

3908
02:43:32,550 --> 02:43:29,200
over to the house and uh i've got

3909
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:32,560
probably 10 or 15 chairs in the backyard

3910
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:35,200
so we can all sit out look at the sky

3911
02:43:39,750 --> 02:43:37,279
talk drink eat

3912
02:43:42,790 --> 02:43:39,760
uh listen to music and and do a sky

3913
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:42,800
watch and we've seen

3914
02:43:49,590 --> 02:43:46,000
uh stuff out there you know and it

3915
02:43:54,389 --> 02:43:49,600
uh it's been a lot of fun adrian though

3916
02:43:56,790 --> 02:43:54,399
so he comes over and i am not kidding

3917
02:43:58,070 --> 02:43:56,800
to my friends that have been over at the

3918
02:44:00,950 --> 02:43:58,080
house

3919
02:44:02,309 --> 02:44:00,960
um and have to hear me say this adrian

3920
02:44:06,550 --> 02:44:02,319
and i

3921
02:44:09,269 --> 02:44:06,560
um i completely have no idea

3922
02:44:11,349 --> 02:44:09,279
uh lost count we stopped counting

3923
02:44:14,309 --> 02:44:11,359
um the amount of things that we saw in

3924
02:44:19,030 --> 02:44:14,319
the sky and it was all night long

3925
02:44:19,910 --> 02:44:19,040
every minute and and as we are looking

3926
02:44:21,990 --> 02:44:19,920
um

3927
02:44:24,389 --> 02:44:22,000
and we're over here picking something up

3928
02:44:26,870 --> 02:44:24,399
i i i can only

3929
02:44:29,269 --> 02:44:26,880
say this as a fact we're looking over

3930
02:44:31,510 --> 02:44:29,279
here but i know that there's something

3931
02:44:33,750 --> 02:44:31,520
that's going on over here as soon as

3932
02:44:35,110 --> 02:44:33,760
something fell you know it was like that

3933
02:44:37,510 --> 02:44:35,120
all night long

3934
02:44:38,550 --> 02:44:37,520
all night it was tremendous

3935
02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:38,560
and

3936
02:44:44,710 --> 02:44:42,720
to get to the second night

3937
02:44:47,510 --> 02:44:44,720
um which was last night

3938
02:44:49,670 --> 02:44:47,520
um but anyway so this object's going

3939
02:44:54,550 --> 02:44:49,680
over the top of us

3940
02:44:57,030 --> 02:44:54,560
and as i'm you know adrian picked it up

3941
02:44:59,110 --> 02:44:57,040
nailed it with the the laser he hands me

3942
02:45:01,510 --> 02:44:59,120
the night vision now i'm looking as i'm

3943
02:45:03,830 --> 02:45:01,520
looking now you can't see it with the

3944
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:03,840
naked eye it's right above us

3945
02:45:08,630 --> 02:45:07,439
12 o'clock can't see with the naked eye

3946
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:08,640
but

3947
02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:11,920
as i'm looking at it in the night vision

3948
02:45:16,389 --> 02:45:15,200
the freaking thing flashes like a camera

3949
02:45:17,750 --> 02:45:16,399
flash

3950
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:17,760
bright

3951
02:45:22,790 --> 02:45:20,800
and as i get ready to

3952
02:45:25,349 --> 02:45:22,800
adrian yells

3953
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:25,359
it just flashed now he saw that with his

3954
02:45:30,870 --> 02:45:28,240
naked eye i'm seeing it in night vision

3955
02:45:34,389 --> 02:45:30,880
you know it explodes in night vision

3956
02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:34,399
and i grab him by his arm

3957
02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:37,279
like i'm scared and i'm like dude and

3958
02:45:41,510 --> 02:45:38,880
i'm holding on to adrian and then it

3959
02:45:42,870 --> 02:45:41,520
flashed a second time now i don't know

3960
02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:42,880
what you know some you know it's an

3961
02:45:48,550 --> 02:45:46,240
iridium it's this okay all right fine

3962
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:48,560
but that doesn't change

3963
02:45:52,950 --> 02:45:50,560
the enjoyment

3964
02:45:54,710 --> 02:45:52,960
um and the fun factor

3965
02:45:56,790 --> 02:45:54,720
of seeing something like that happen

3966
02:45:59,750 --> 02:45:56,800
above your head you

3967
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:59,760
it's going on and and people aren't

3968
02:46:02,469 --> 02:46:01,439
looking up people don't have night

3969
02:46:05,110 --> 02:46:02,479
vision

3970
02:46:06,790 --> 02:46:05,120
um and the ability to do it but when you

3971
02:46:08,710 --> 02:46:06,800
see it yourself

3972
02:46:10,710 --> 02:46:08,720
no matter what it could be a satellite

3973
02:46:12,790 --> 02:46:10,720
it could be that it doesn't matter when

3974
02:46:14,790 --> 02:46:12,800
you see something like that

3975
02:46:17,590 --> 02:46:14,800
moving across the night sky and that

3976
02:46:19,910 --> 02:46:17,600
thing lights up and then goes dim and

3977
02:46:22,230 --> 02:46:19,920
then and then lights up

3978
02:46:25,190 --> 02:46:22,240
it's it's awesome

3979
02:46:27,269 --> 02:46:25,200
it's totally awesome so

3980
02:46:28,630 --> 02:46:27,279
i this is i've been in this house for a

3981
02:46:31,429 --> 02:46:28,640
year

3982
02:46:32,950 --> 02:46:31,439
that was the first night

3983
02:46:35,030 --> 02:46:32,960
that it has

3984
02:46:37,990 --> 02:46:35,040
jumped off like that and i'm talking

3985
02:46:40,550 --> 02:46:38,000
about everywhere all at once everything

3986
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:40,560
everywhere all at once all night long it

3987
02:46:43,910 --> 02:46:42,000
was tremendous

3988
02:46:45,110 --> 02:46:43,920
so last night

3989
02:46:48,230 --> 02:46:45,120
um

3990
02:46:50,950 --> 02:46:48,240
i'm i'm getting ready for bed

3991
02:46:52,389 --> 02:46:50,960
and i went you know what uh i was

3992
02:46:54,950 --> 02:46:52,399
downstairs

3993
02:46:59,510 --> 02:46:54,960
i'm gonna get the night vision

3994
02:47:02,070 --> 02:46:59,520
so i go out um on the second floor of of

3995
02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:02,080
my home where my master bedroom is i

3996
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:04,720
have a patio on the second floor sliding

3997
02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:07,120
glass doors open it up i got a it's a

3998
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:08,800
nice big patio i've got a chair out

3999
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:11,600
there so i grab the night vision i head

4000
02:47:15,269 --> 02:47:12,640
upstairs

4001
02:47:16,309 --> 02:47:15,279
and and i walk out on the patio it's

4002
02:47:18,950 --> 02:47:16,319
dark

4003
02:47:19,670 --> 02:47:18,960
and i sit down in the chair and i break

4004
02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:19,680
up

4005
02:47:24,870 --> 02:47:21,760
and i sat there

4006
02:47:28,070 --> 02:47:24,880
for an hour

4007
02:47:31,110 --> 02:47:28,080
i saw stuff all night long and i i can't

4008
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:31,120
explain it it's like two nights in a row

4009
02:47:34,630 --> 02:47:32,640
um

4010
02:47:37,269 --> 02:47:34,640
where now i'm gonna do it again tonight

4011
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:37,279
after the show i'm so excited about this

4012
02:47:41,349 --> 02:47:39,120
and i'm sitting out there in the chair i

4013
02:47:44,550 --> 02:47:41,359
got my feet up on the back uh on the

4014
02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:44,560
thing and i'm just kicked back and and

4015
02:47:50,469 --> 02:47:47,760
it's it's everywhere different things

4016
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:50,479
sometimes two three objects

4017
02:47:54,469 --> 02:47:52,720
um at the same time

4018
02:47:56,150 --> 02:47:54,479
and and this is

4019
02:47:57,990 --> 02:47:56,160
this is my point to all of this that i

4020
02:48:00,309 --> 02:47:58,000
haven't brought up yet

4021
02:48:04,389 --> 02:48:00,319
okay my house is perfectly

4022
02:48:05,670 --> 02:48:04,399
uh east west north south orientation i

4023
02:48:08,550 --> 02:48:05,680
mean like

4024
02:48:11,349 --> 02:48:08,560
two to a tenth of a degree

4025
02:48:15,349 --> 02:48:11,359
so i know where east is

4026
02:48:19,990 --> 02:48:17,349
these objects

4027
02:48:23,030 --> 02:48:20,000
that we were watching

4028
02:48:25,349 --> 02:48:23,040
in a general sense

4029
02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:25,359
were either coming from the north going

4030
02:48:32,469 --> 02:48:27,279
south

4031
02:48:34,790 --> 02:48:32,479
that's a polar orbit

4032
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:34,800
and they're also moving

4033
02:48:39,269 --> 02:48:35,920
so

4034
02:48:41,269 --> 02:48:39,279
here's earth what i am seeing is going

4035
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:41,279
in either this direction or this

4036
02:48:45,030 --> 02:48:42,640
direction

4037
02:48:47,349 --> 02:48:45,040
most of the satellites that we have

4038
02:48:50,230 --> 02:48:47,359
whatever you know 5 000 satellites out

4039
02:48:52,950 --> 02:48:50,240
there they're all in

4040
02:48:54,469 --> 02:48:52,960
uh around the equator

4041
02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:54,479
all right you can look at the satellite

4042
02:48:58,150 --> 02:48:56,160
maps you can see

4043
02:49:00,550 --> 02:48:58,160
where everything is positioned out there

4044
02:49:03,190 --> 02:49:00,560
and they go further out and further out

4045
02:49:03,990 --> 02:49:03,200
and they're also in a permanent

4046
02:49:06,950 --> 02:49:04,000
uh

4047
02:49:09,190 --> 02:49:06,960
orientation geosynchronous orbit in

4048
02:49:11,110 --> 02:49:09,200
other words they are if you have a

4049
02:49:13,190 --> 02:49:11,120
communication satellite or you have

4050
02:49:16,389 --> 02:49:13,200
something else that's up there

4051
02:49:18,870 --> 02:49:16,399
the earth is is rotating and the

4052
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:18,880
satellites are going with it they're not

4053
02:49:22,230 --> 02:49:20,880
moving some are

4054
02:49:23,110 --> 02:49:22,240
right but

4055
02:49:25,910 --> 02:49:23,120
but

4056
02:49:27,269 --> 02:49:25,920
most are permanently in a geosynchronous

4057
02:49:30,070 --> 02:49:27,279
orbit and

4058
02:49:31,269 --> 02:49:30,080
as the earth turns so do the satellites

4059
02:49:33,590 --> 02:49:31,279
and they're permanent up there you're

4060
02:49:34,630 --> 02:49:33,600
not going to see them moving around

4061
02:49:39,590 --> 02:49:34,640
and

4062
02:49:40,790 --> 02:49:39,600
in another context

4063
02:49:43,910 --> 02:49:40,800
which is

4064
02:49:46,309 --> 02:49:43,920
north south or south north

4065
02:49:48,389 --> 02:49:46,319
that's a different situation

4066
02:49:50,230 --> 02:49:48,399
and i mean

4067
02:49:53,349 --> 02:49:50,240
we saw

4068
02:49:55,349 --> 02:49:53,359
and i saw again last night

4069
02:49:59,670 --> 02:49:55,359
50

4070
02:50:01,750 --> 02:49:59,680
north south

4071
02:50:03,349 --> 02:50:01,760
or south north

4072
02:50:05,510 --> 02:50:03,359
all night long

4073
02:50:06,469 --> 02:50:05,520
what what is that

4074
02:50:07,510 --> 02:50:06,479
now

4075
02:50:09,590 --> 02:50:07,520
um

4076
02:50:10,550 --> 02:50:09,600
if we look at it in a technical sense

4077
02:50:13,429 --> 02:50:10,560
like

4078
02:50:16,630 --> 02:50:13,439
these are our satellites okay all right

4079
02:50:20,150 --> 02:50:16,640
something like that that is moving

4080
02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:20,160
um in in a polar orbit you know going

4081
02:50:25,030 --> 02:50:22,720
over the north and south poles

4082
02:50:28,070 --> 02:50:25,040
it's mapping

4083
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:28,080
right it's it's doing something

4084
02:50:30,389 --> 02:50:29,600
else

4085
02:50:33,269 --> 02:50:30,399
right

4086
02:50:37,750 --> 02:50:35,349
you wouldn't be a military satellite

4087
02:50:38,870 --> 02:50:37,760
flying over los angeles

4088
02:50:42,389 --> 02:50:38,880
in a

4089
02:50:43,429 --> 02:50:42,399
hole or by to the tune of

4090
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:43,439
50

4091
02:50:48,469 --> 02:50:46,000
i don't know how many satellites are in

4092
02:50:51,030 --> 02:50:48,479
a polar orbit right now but why would

4093
02:50:53,190 --> 02:50:51,040
they be flying over

4094
02:50:55,750 --> 02:50:53,200
the west coast of california all night

4095
02:50:58,630 --> 02:50:55,760
long all night like this

4096
02:51:00,950 --> 02:50:58,640
all night remember the earth is is

4097
02:51:03,349 --> 02:51:00,960
rotating so these

4098
02:51:07,750 --> 02:51:03,359
objects whatever we are seeing

4099
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:07,760
as the earth is turning is there also

4100
02:51:12,790 --> 02:51:10,800
you know or is this going on

4101
02:51:15,510 --> 02:51:12,800
all around the planet at the same time

4102
02:51:17,030 --> 02:51:15,520
i'm here in los angeles what if you're

4103
02:51:18,710 --> 02:51:17,040
in kansas city in the middle of the

4104
02:51:20,790 --> 02:51:18,720
country and you're out you're looking

4105
02:51:23,349 --> 02:51:20,800
are you seeing this same thing

4106
02:51:25,030 --> 02:51:23,359
are you seeing 50 objects in an hour

4107
02:51:28,710 --> 02:51:25,040
going north south

4108
02:51:29,990 --> 02:51:28,720
south north over kansas or new york

4109
02:51:34,469 --> 02:51:30,000
right

4110
02:51:36,870 --> 02:51:34,479
what about the uk what about france

4111
02:51:39,110 --> 02:51:36,880
spain portugal what about germany what

4112
02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:39,120
about russia what about china what about

4113
02:51:42,550 --> 02:51:41,760
japan what about australia

4114
02:51:44,950 --> 02:51:42,560
now

4115
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:44,960
so and this is the way that my mind

4116
02:51:52,710 --> 02:51:49,990
if that is the case if

4117
02:51:54,950 --> 02:51:52,720
you just take a it's a numbers game

4118
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:54,960
so you take the amount of sightings that

4119
02:51:58,230 --> 02:51:56,240
are happening

4120
02:52:01,190 --> 02:51:58,240
right here on the west over the west

4121
02:52:03,030 --> 02:52:01,200
coast of the united states

4122
02:52:05,670 --> 02:52:03,040
right

4123
02:52:07,349 --> 02:52:05,680
and you take the same math and you just

4124
02:52:09,349 --> 02:52:07,359
put that all the way around the

4125
02:52:11,110 --> 02:52:09,359
longitude and latitude all the way

4126
02:52:12,309 --> 02:52:11,120
around the planet what are we talking

4127
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:12,319
about here

4128
02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:16,240
talking about 10 000 satellites

4129
02:52:21,830 --> 02:52:19,200
that are in a north-south south north

4130
02:52:24,309 --> 02:52:21,840
orientation polar orbit that are going

4131
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:24,319
on at the same time all around the

4132
02:52:29,269 --> 02:52:26,560
planet it can't be

4133
02:52:32,070 --> 02:52:29,279
just above los angeles

4134
02:52:38,150 --> 02:52:34,070
probably not

4135
02:52:39,830 --> 02:52:38,160
so how many objects are up there now

4136
02:52:42,790 --> 02:52:39,840
some are ours

4137
02:52:45,429 --> 02:52:42,800
now and i would i would venture to guess

4138
02:52:46,950 --> 02:52:45,439
what we have in a polar orbit i don't

4139
02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:46,960
know

4140
02:52:52,389 --> 02:52:50,399
it's worth a little bit of investigation

4141
02:52:56,230 --> 02:52:52,399
10 20

4142
02:52:58,550 --> 02:52:56,240
right how long at 17 000 miles per hour

4143
02:53:01,110 --> 02:52:58,560
how long does it take to go around what

4144
02:53:02,309 --> 02:53:01,120
an hour 90 minutes

4145
02:53:04,469 --> 02:53:02,319
right

4146
02:53:05,830 --> 02:53:04,479
well okay

4147
02:53:07,269 --> 02:53:05,840
do you understand where i'm going with

4148
02:53:09,030 --> 02:53:07,279
this now

4149
02:53:12,389 --> 02:53:09,040
how much of it

4150
02:53:16,550 --> 02:53:14,630
i i don't know but

4151
02:53:18,950 --> 02:53:16,560
all of it can't be

4152
02:53:18,960 --> 02:53:21,510
so

4153
02:53:27,190 --> 02:53:23,830
before you say

4154
02:53:30,150 --> 02:53:27,200
it's all ours it's satellites and

4155
02:53:31,110 --> 02:53:30,160
no but before you say that

4156
02:53:33,190 --> 02:53:31,120
all right

4157
02:53:35,510 --> 02:53:33,200
so

4158
02:53:37,670 --> 02:53:35,520
i've locked out an object it's cool it's

4159
02:53:39,110 --> 02:53:37,680
bright it's low and it was a little

4160
02:53:41,190 --> 02:53:39,120
fuzzy

4161
02:53:44,389 --> 02:53:41,200
right it's illuminated it's big and it's

4162
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:44,399
coming across it's going south to north

4163
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:46,800
and as i'm watching this and i light it

4164
02:53:51,349 --> 02:53:48,800
up with the laser i'm getting ready to

4165
02:53:53,830 --> 02:53:51,359
pass i've got it marked so when you do

4166
02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:53,840
this you know you're looking you line it

4167
02:53:57,830 --> 02:53:56,319
up with the laser and you hand off the

4168
02:53:59,510 --> 02:53:57,840
night vision while you've got the laser

4169
02:54:02,150 --> 02:53:59,520
lock so somebody else can look where the

4170
02:54:04,150 --> 02:54:02,160
laser is and see the object all right so

4171
02:54:07,190 --> 02:54:04,160
while this and we're doing this all

4172
02:54:08,710 --> 02:54:07,200
night long laser lock pass laser lock

4173
02:54:10,710 --> 02:54:08,720
pass

4174
02:54:13,110 --> 02:54:10,720
i've got this object and as i'm doing i

4175
02:54:15,510 --> 02:54:13,120
go wait wait wait wait wait there's an

4176
02:54:16,469 --> 02:54:15,520
object coming in from the west

4177
02:54:19,510 --> 02:54:16,479
and

4178
02:54:21,670 --> 02:54:19,520
i go adrian okay so now this object is

4179
02:54:23,110 --> 02:54:21,680
coming in this way the uh the first one

4180
02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:23,120
is going this way and they're getting

4181
02:54:25,590 --> 02:54:24,080
ready

4182
02:54:28,469 --> 02:54:25,600
to cross

4183
02:54:30,150 --> 02:54:28,479
right okay one's going south to north

4184
02:54:32,150 --> 02:54:30,160
other one's coming in from the west and

4185
02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:32,160
it's going east and they're gonna cross

4186
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:34,560
at a 90 degree angle

4187
02:54:38,550 --> 02:54:37,600
and i hand him

4188
02:54:40,230 --> 02:54:38,560
the

4189
02:54:42,630 --> 02:54:40,240
night vision

4190
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:42,640
and as he's looking i've got it locked

4191
02:54:46,230 --> 02:54:43,680
with the laser i said they're getting

4192
02:54:50,230 --> 02:54:46,240
ready to cross paths she goes church the

4193
02:54:51,590 --> 02:54:50,240
one from the west uh or the one from

4194
02:54:54,309 --> 02:54:51,600
the south

4195
02:54:55,190 --> 02:54:54,319
just turned and is following the other

4196
02:54:58,469 --> 02:54:55,200
one

4197
02:55:00,150 --> 02:54:58,479
i said what he hands me back and i look

4198
02:55:03,429 --> 02:55:00,160
and sure enough

4199
02:55:07,750 --> 02:55:03,439
the two objects are going this way

4200
02:55:11,429 --> 02:55:07,760
now remember what i am suggesting here

4201
02:55:13,750 --> 02:55:11,439
first object is south to north

4202
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:13,760
second object comes in from the west and

4203
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:17,200
is about to cross its path i see it and

4204
02:55:21,269 --> 02:55:20,080
there it is i hand the night vision to

4205
02:55:22,150 --> 02:55:21,279
adrian

4206
02:55:25,349 --> 02:55:22,160
and

4207
02:55:27,990 --> 02:55:25,359
the south to north then turn

4208
02:55:29,349 --> 02:55:28,000
and and when he handed me this

4209
02:55:32,630 --> 02:55:29,359
and i'm looking

4210
02:55:35,110 --> 02:55:32,640
and now i see the two objects

4211
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:35,120
traveling together like this heading

4212
02:55:40,870 --> 02:55:39,349
what's going on

4213
02:55:44,710 --> 02:55:40,880
now i know

4214
02:55:46,309 --> 02:55:44,720
that the nsa and and the navy and the

4215
02:55:48,870 --> 02:55:46,319
air force and

4216
02:55:49,910 --> 02:55:48,880
and space force they've got satellites

4217
02:55:50,870 --> 02:55:49,920
up there

4218
02:55:53,269 --> 02:55:50,880
um

4219
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:53,279
uh with the ability to position and to

4220
02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:55,120
move around of course and change

4221
02:56:02,790 --> 02:55:58,240
directions but this happened

4222
02:56:04,150 --> 02:56:02,800
as the two objects are crossing paths

4223
02:56:06,710 --> 02:56:04,160
what is that

4224
02:56:07,910 --> 02:56:06,720
and that's the part when you are out

4225
02:56:08,870 --> 02:56:07,920
there

4226
02:56:10,870 --> 02:56:08,880
um

4227
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:10,880
doing a sky watch

4228
02:56:15,590 --> 02:56:13,120
with with night vision

4229
02:56:17,910 --> 02:56:15,600
and you're looking at stuff in a normal

4230
02:56:20,150 --> 02:56:17,920
that and you see that happen

4231
02:56:21,349 --> 02:56:20,160
you have to step back and go what's

4232
02:56:22,150 --> 02:56:21,359
going on

4233
02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:22,160
now

4234
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:24,720
of course it can be hours and it

4235
02:56:28,710 --> 02:56:26,560
probably is

4236
02:56:31,830 --> 02:56:28,720
but it's something that when you see it

4237
02:56:34,469 --> 02:56:31,840
happen yourself

4238
02:56:37,750 --> 02:56:34,479
it's the funnest thing ever

4239
02:56:39,510 --> 02:56:37,760
you it is so compelling and so there's

4240
02:56:40,710 --> 02:56:39,520
an addiction here

4241
02:56:42,550 --> 02:56:40,720
because

4242
02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:42,560
when

4243
02:56:46,230 --> 02:56:44,640
you are out without night vision and

4244
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:46,240
you're looking at the stars and you're

4245
02:56:50,550 --> 02:56:48,000
looking at the constellations oh there's

4246
02:56:53,190 --> 02:56:50,560
the big dipper and there's polaris and

4247
02:56:55,349 --> 02:56:53,200
there's venus and there's saturn and

4248
02:56:57,030 --> 02:56:55,359
you're looking up yeah but you're not

4249
02:56:59,030 --> 02:56:57,040
seeing this

4250
02:57:02,389 --> 02:56:59,040
you don't

4251
02:57:04,389 --> 02:57:02,399
once you go this direct and you see

4252
02:57:06,710 --> 02:57:04,399
what is happening

4253
02:57:08,630 --> 02:57:06,720
up in the night sky

4254
02:57:11,990 --> 02:57:08,640
some of it is ours some of it is

4255
02:57:13,990 --> 02:57:12,000
satellites is it secret military things

4256
02:57:16,790 --> 02:57:14,000
that are flying around

4257
02:57:18,790 --> 02:57:16,800
um but stuff that is changing directions

4258
02:57:21,670 --> 02:57:18,800
and pairing up with something else and

4259
02:57:24,070 --> 02:57:21,680
following it stuff that is moving along

4260
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:24,080
and zigzag you can see it

4261
02:57:29,429 --> 02:57:28,000
you can i have uh and flashing

4262
02:57:33,349 --> 02:57:29,439
so

4263
02:57:35,429 --> 02:57:33,359
across the other way and it just started

4264
02:57:39,190 --> 02:57:35,439
flashing but this thing

4265
02:57:41,110 --> 02:57:39,200
like every two seconds listen to me

4266
02:57:45,190 --> 02:57:41,120
is zig zagging so it's going

4267
02:57:47,670 --> 02:57:45,200
[Music]

4268
02:57:49,670 --> 02:57:47,680
across the sky it's not your imagination

4269
02:57:53,030 --> 02:57:49,680
you're watching this happen

4270
02:57:54,070 --> 02:57:53,040
do satellites do that maybe i don't know

4271
02:57:56,790 --> 02:57:54,080
you know

4272
02:57:58,710 --> 02:57:56,800
do i have to get a nro

4273
02:58:01,990 --> 02:57:58,720
nsa

4274
02:58:04,230 --> 02:58:02,000
uh agent on here to to tell us

4275
02:58:06,950 --> 02:58:04,240
what their satellites are doing and they

4276
02:58:09,349 --> 02:58:06,960
do zigzag in the sky fine

4277
02:58:10,550 --> 02:58:09,359
all right and and they probably do do

4278
02:58:13,510 --> 02:58:10,560
that

4279
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:13,520
what i am saying is when you see it for

4280
02:58:16,870 --> 02:58:15,040
yourself

4281
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:16,880
when you're looking through night vision

4282
02:58:20,950 --> 02:58:19,200
and you see this stuff because

4283
02:58:22,950 --> 02:58:20,960
without the night vision it's just a

4284
02:58:24,870 --> 02:58:22,960
normal starry night

4285
02:58:27,110 --> 02:58:24,880
and you just never know so last night

4286
02:58:29,110 --> 02:58:27,120
before i let you go so last night i'm

4287
02:58:30,230 --> 02:58:29,120
sitting on my patio

4288
02:58:33,030 --> 02:58:30,240
and

4289
02:58:35,190 --> 02:58:33,040
right right over again south to north

4290
02:58:37,510 --> 02:58:35,200
and it's right over my head

4291
02:58:39,670 --> 02:58:37,520
and and i'm watching it just pretty good

4292
02:58:41,429 --> 02:58:39,680
clip pretty good clip moving along

4293
02:58:43,349 --> 02:58:41,439
pretty good i'm just watching it's just

4294
02:58:45,110 --> 02:58:43,359
another object up there

4295
02:58:47,349 --> 02:58:45,120
and this thing

4296
02:58:49,910 --> 02:58:47,359
slows down

4297
02:58:53,110 --> 02:58:49,920
took me like five minutes

4298
02:58:55,830 --> 02:58:53,120
normally this whatever's gonna be over

4299
02:58:57,349 --> 02:58:55,840
your head in in 30 seconds and and it's

4300
02:58:58,630 --> 02:58:57,359
gone

4301
02:59:01,110 --> 02:58:58,640
five minutes

4302
02:59:03,269 --> 02:59:01,120
why this thing slowed down

4303
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:03,279
pretty good clip at first normal right

4304
02:59:06,630 --> 02:59:04,960
and it just slowed down slowed i'm

4305
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:06,640
watching it's lit up

4306
02:59:10,950 --> 02:59:09,040
slowed down slow started to dim right

4307
02:59:12,830 --> 02:59:10,960
but slowed down slowed down

4308
02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:12,840
and

4309
02:59:18,309 --> 02:59:15,680
stopped now is that a satellite being

4310
02:59:20,630 --> 02:59:18,319
positioned into a geosynchronous orbit

4311
02:59:23,590 --> 02:59:20,640
and it's freeze framing and they're

4312
02:59:25,590 --> 02:59:23,600
observing sure could be that but when

4313
02:59:28,630 --> 02:59:25,600
you see it happen

4314
02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:28,640
that's a whole another trip

4315
02:59:32,630 --> 02:59:31,120
and i watched this thing pump the brakes

4316
02:59:34,309 --> 02:59:32,640
and stop

4317
02:59:37,269 --> 02:59:34,319
back to my point

4318
02:59:39,670 --> 02:59:37,279
if you didn't see it slow down and stop

4319
02:59:40,870 --> 02:59:39,680
and now and i'm just looking up in my

4320
02:59:43,750 --> 02:59:40,880
night vision

4321
02:59:45,750 --> 02:59:43,760
it's just a it's a star

4322
02:59:46,550 --> 02:59:45,760
you don't know that it's just sitting

4323
02:59:49,590 --> 02:59:46,560
there

4324
02:59:51,190 --> 02:59:49,600
that it just came up moved and stopped

4325
02:59:54,230 --> 02:59:51,200
that's what night vision and that's what

4326
02:59:57,510 --> 02:59:54,240
a sky watch is all about if you ever get

4327
02:59:59,429 --> 02:59:57,520
an opportunity to do it go

4328
03:00:01,670 --> 02:59:59,439
if you have a friend that's got night

4329
03:00:04,150 --> 03:00:01,680
vision and they're gonna go go if you've

4330
03:00:05,750 --> 03:00:04,160
never done it before the first time you

4331
03:00:09,670 --> 03:00:05,760
look through night vision and you look

4332
03:00:12,070 --> 03:00:09,680
at the night sky your mind is blown

4333
03:00:15,750 --> 03:00:12,080
you go from seeing a thousand stars in

4334
03:00:18,550 --> 03:00:15,760
the sky and you do this to ten thousand

4335
03:00:20,790 --> 03:00:18,560
it's incredible so do it

4336
03:00:23,510 --> 03:00:20,800
it is the most extraordinary thing and

4337
03:00:25,110 --> 03:00:23,520
it's a paradigm shift this is fade to

4338
03:00:27,190 --> 03:00:25,120
black i am your host jimmy church i want

4339
03:00:30,309 --> 03:00:27,200
to thank whitley strieber for coming in

4340
03:00:32,469 --> 03:00:30,319
tomorrow night on this very program

4341
03:00:34,950 --> 03:00:32,479
my guest is me

4342
03:00:37,110 --> 03:00:34,960
tomorrow night humans

4343
03:00:39,590 --> 03:00:37,120
our e.t

4344
03:00:43,030 --> 03:00:39,600
maybe

4345
03:00:45,429 --> 03:00:43,040
not yet the future all of that tomorrow

4346
03:00:46,389 --> 03:00:45,439
night wednesday night richard dolan is

4347
03:00:48,630 --> 03:00:46,399
with us

4348
03:00:50,950 --> 03:00:48,640
thursday night linda moulton howe i'm

4349
03:00:53,030 --> 03:00:50,960
your host jimmy church this is payton

4350
03:00:54,870 --> 03:00:53,040
black i again i want to thank whitley

4351
03:00:57,590 --> 03:00:54,880
streeper for coming in

4352
03:01:01,510 --> 03:00:57,600
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03:01:03,910 --> 03:01:01,520
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03:01:22,150 --> 03:01:19,279
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4369
03:01:43,830 --> 03:01:39,680
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4370
03:01:47,120 --> 03:01:43,840
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